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"During the 2008 election, Obama co-opted huge portions of the Left ..."

by: Pacific John

Fri Feb 13, 2009 at 14:42:14 PM EST


Dead on. Here's Glenn Greenwald's entire quote:

During the 2008 election, Obama co-opted huge portions of the Left and its infrastructure so that their allegiance became devoted to him and not to any ideas.  Many online political and "news" outlets -- including some liberal political blogs -- discovered that the most reliable way to massively increase traffic was to capitalize on the pro-Obama fervor by turning themselves into pro-Obama cheerleading squads.  Grass-roots activist groups watched their dues-paying membership rolls explode the more they tapped into that same sentiment and turned themselves into Obama-supporting appendages.  Even labor unions and long-standing Beltway advocacy groups reaped substantial benefits by identifying themselves as loyal foot soldiers in the Obama movement.

Now, says Glenn, liberal allies are boxed in. They tooled their operations and fund raising around The One, and can't turn back to issues, not even to give Obama breathing room to move left, without alienating Obama fans.

As they say, read the whole thing.

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Pacific John :: "During the 2008 election, Obama co-opted huge portions of the Left ..."
It's self-evident that Alegre is being vindicated daily. She was the first, and nearly the only, blogger to crystallize issues as our most important focus. There was much hand wringing that critics of Obama would not "have a seat at the table," and would not have an ear to push reforms like health care and voter rights - we'd be out in the cold, we were told.

Now, less than a month into the most awesome presidency ever, it's clear that for issue-advocates, joining Team Obama was the worst thing short of a third W administration.

To say I was ambivalent to our two choices last fall is an understatement. Neither choice was acceptable to me, and it was a hypothetical thought experiment about which result would be less harmful to the country. My one argument in favor of McCain was that we would be able to fight him in the open on the issues. Since polling was more clear that we'd have a very Democratic Congress than about who'd win the presidency, it was easy to imagine the issues would be flushed into the open, and we'd automatically use the theory of contrast to move the country left, setting up big wins in '10 and '12 (cough, cough), with no actual damage to policy along the way.

So here we are. All of the major liberal institutions and groups, from voting rights advocates to feminist groups to labor to health care reformers have been corrupted and consumed by the Obama campaign machine. It was brilliant of Axlerod. This didn't just neutralize criticism, but bought room for Obama to be himself, a compromiser who couldn't stand the partisan conflicts of the '90s, all of which our issue advocates were fully engaged in.

Heck, the biggest new issue advocate, MoveOn, was more flamboyantly co-opted than anyone else.

It's going to be a long haul for issues like universal health care and economic populism, but we critics are in the right spot for it. Advocacy groups will experience a lot of trauma as they either become obsolete, or disentangle from their one-person movement to find their way back to where we are, honest critics.

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If you're rebuilding a list of good bookmarks (0.00 / 0)
...like I am, having tossed aside "liberal" blogs that became more self-parody than honest observer, Greenwald belongs on it.

I have a small list in a folder called "sane blogs," that I've just added Glenn to.


Hey, what are we? Chopped liver? (0.00 / 0)
The Confluence has been out there since January of 2008 beating the drums.  That's no slight to Alegre who was with me at DailyKos back in the day.  I got kicked off before she did.  But it's not like we weren't out here.  

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I first heard of 'goldberry' (0.00 / 0)
this mysterious banned user NewHampster always toasted in his daily cheeto Hillary diaries.

Yes, you were out there before Alegre started this site. Some of us remember.

(But Alegre's blogger's strike was pretty awesome too.)


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lol (0.00 / 0)
I consciously include you in the small "nearly" group.

You did see way before most of us that the Netroots was everyone's enemy, even their own. Your gbcw is still gold.

Too bad that we don't have more of a critical mass, like we'd have if so many advocacy groups hadn't sold their souls.


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LOL! I Think It's Safe to Say (0.00 / 0)
you'd be at the top of PJs list RD.  You led the way outta that cesspool - it just took us a month or two to follow.

Come to think of it... my account is probably still active over there.  I must not have pissed them off enough * snap *

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Here's more choice Greenwald: (0.00 / 0)
As Judis points out, Obama, on some issues, might move to the Right because he wants to.  In other cases, he will do so because he perceives that he has to, because the combination of the GOP/Blue-Dog-following-caucus/Beltway-media-mob might force him to.  Regardless of Obama's motives, the lack of a meaningful, potent movement on the Left to oppose that behavior ensures that it will continue without any resistance.  The lack of any independent political pressure from the Left ensures that Obama will be either content to ignore their views or will be forced to do so even when he doesn't want to.

I wouldn't be the first one to point out that the blogosphere was supposed to be the progressive counterbalance to The Village and the reviled DLC. So much for that.

Too bad no one pointed that out to the movement of One. Oh, wait....


On the bright side, you can always count on the left (0.00 / 0)
for not staying in lock-step for long. daily cheeto is done. HuffPo is quickly getting lapped by Tina Brown's The Daily Beast.

As for Greenwald - does he atone for his CDS?


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And I might add (0.00 / 0)
that to this date I still have NO IDEA what he actually believes or cares about - if anything. I'm not even trying anymore to distinguish what he really wants from what's politically calculated. Nothing he says or does will surprise me.  

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BTW, we tried to build a movement... (0.00 / 0)
...after the convention but there wasn't much interest in putting together an infrastructure.  We were even willing to drop the PUMA name.  We had a ketchy presentation of what would be involved with organizing and all of the pieces involved.  But whether people were just too depressed over the convention or buying into some of the malicious lies spread about us, we couldn't get anyone to jump onboard.  

If anyone has the time to put a new org together, here's the opportunity.  So far, the only person I see holding down the fort with real actions is Darragh Murphy at Pumapac.  


One reason I voted McCain (0.00 / 0)
is a) he likes to get things done, and proposed the same Social Security fix that Reagan and Tip O'neal implemented in the 1980s (a good fix, not a privatizatino fix.) He also copied Hillary's HOLC idea.

also b) it is hard to build a movement when your side has the white house.

but mainly c) he likes to get things done, and on the economy he would be rushing to lead us out of this mess. McCain is no thumb-twiddler.

We all saw this coming - Mr. you-know-who would get elected and let the air out of the tires of all the political capital built up under Bush.  


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probably (0.00 / 0)
McCain would have been able to move the country more in a truly progressive direction (a nixon goes to china thing); with Obama, it's just the flip:  to counter crticism of him being an "elitist" wimpy academic liberal, he'll go to the right to prove how big and strong he is.
.............
and lest we forget, McCain supports public campaign finance; Obama/NOT

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McCain goes to China? (0.00 / 0)
Perhaps. It would have been a mixed bag, with torture and immigration being two China issues. Hard to say on balance.

Obama is a surer thing. As we are seeing now, there's no place for him to go but toward the right. We knew, even if his professional denialists couldn't admit it, that his repeated use of Harry and Louise was a telegraph that he had no intention to fight for serious health care reform. FISA, HOLC, stimulus? We would have made money on those bets.

That's what was tough about Nov., we had a choice between a wildcard maverick and a moderate Republican.


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A wildcard maverick or moderate Repub with ennui (0.00 / 0)
can you just feel the ennui? The malaise? It's setting in so thick you can cut it.

It's going to kill the economy.

In four years we're going to need a live wire to electroshock us out of this stupor.


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health care: (0.00 / 0)

I didn't like mccain's or obama's health care plans:  both of them too Harry and Louise and Lazy Fair.

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Lazy Fair perhaps ; (0.00 / 0)
but if McCain had won, Hillary would still be in the Senate. And as the defacto leader of the Democratic party, with a passionate constituency already 18 million strong, and as the leading contender to knock McCain's butt out of the White House in 2012 - she would have sounded a clarion call and led the charge to UHC. She would also have led the way and worked with McCain on a recovery bill that was long on results and accountability both, and designed to really work.

I, too believe McCain would have been more progressive than he had to sound during his primaries and the general. I'm not saying he would have been a liberal, but he would have been less beholding to Wall St. and more interested in a legacy rooted in patriotism than narcissism. The progressive cause, and women in general (and therefore all of us) would have been better served.


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well said. (0.00 / 0)

and I bet a mccain administration would have had a lot more women in  cabinet positions (Obama is Bush re-dux in that vein -- and many others).

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Riverdaughter, (0.00 / 0)
I love your website and also hoped that the PUMA opposition to Obama and his DNC might turn into some kind of movement.  I've always considered the coalition aspect of this opposition its strongest point, since it brought together diverse groups and voices around certain issues (e.g. primary reform, clean elections, anti-misogyny work) and toward a common political goal (i.e. defeating Obama and TAKING BACK THIS COUNTRY FROM EXTREME ELEMENTS).   I like the idea of a Coalition Movement or Coalition Party, because such entities can articulate and re-articulate themselves according to the political context and to the most pressing issues at any given time.  In any case, I think the old ideological divides and Parties no longer hold.  The Coalition Movement or Party would be a viable space for disaffected individuals across the political spectrum to make our voices heard through specific demands, fund raising, and our mobilizing capacity.    

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I Ran Outta Steam (0.00 / 0)
in October and then got scared about job security.  Turned all that post-convention energy into updating my resume and lining up references... just - in - case.

Break-in back in October and dealing with insurance to get our back door replaced didn't help either.

Things have been mighty weird since the convention come to think of it * scratches head *

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I've said this before (0.00 / 0)
but I really think PUMA is the only real grassroots movement to come out of the '08 election cycle.  Still believe it, or something like it, has real promise going forward.

Like some others here, I thought McCain/Palin was the better choice and voted it.  I'm sorry to say the last few weeks have made me feel better about that vote against Obama/Biden.


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The Democratic Party subsumed itself to Obama (0.00 / 0)
because they were greedy for his fund-raising lists. They were salivating over getting access to that huge war chest. Then they found out that Obummer doesn't share. With anyone. So the down-ticket Dems not only were denied funding from the Obummer machine, they were told that he wouldn't even come support them unless they did a fundraiser for HIM. Contrast that with the Clintons who wore out several pairs of shoes apiece stumping for other Democrats and Hillary's PAC gave money to help their campaigns. The Democratic Party disgustingly dismissed and abandoned two of the greatest fund-raisers they ever had in favor of a selfish empty suit who spent $750 million dollars on his own campaign and let the down-ticket Democrats sink or swim on their own. So much for Party Unity. The Democrats need to stop and remember why they are Democrats. Obummer isn't a Democrat, and someone should point that out to the DNC. As soon as possible.  

Live your life in such a way that when your feet
hit the floor in the morning, Satan shudders & says
'Oh $#!%'...she's awake!!


"Obummer isn't a Democrat" (0.00 / 0)
I, too, have been saying this all along.

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Yep that did it. Their eyes got big. (0.00 / 0)
No matter how much they tried to be objective, they were blinded by the mighty $$$$$.

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And now Obummer can't understand (0.00 / 0)
why Congress isn't helping him out more. Why? Because he didn't do a damn thing to help them get there. Payback time. If you spend your time in the Senate running for the next office instead of forming political alliances and working on bills with your fellow lawmakers, you shouldn't be surprised when they aren't totally behind you when you wangle your way into the White House. If you have the "biggest war chest EVER" and you keep it all for yourself, don't be surprised if no one feels any gratitude towards you. If you repeatedly toss your allies under the bus when it becomes convenient for you, don't expect them to be there for you when you need them. And finally, if you aren't prepared to do the grunt work that comes with the job, don't spend three quarters of a billion dollars getting it. Someone should explain these things to Obummer. He seems to think all he has to do is go out and give a speech and everyone is happy. Well, why wouldn't he, it's worked so far. But this is the big leagues, and the campaign is over. It's time for him to produce, and he isn't. I keep seeing, "It's going to cost him.." all over the web.. well it isn't going to cost him shit unless he is impeached. It's going to cost US. Big time.

Live your life in such a way that when your feet
hit the floor in the morning, Satan shudders & says
'Oh $#!%'...she's awake!!


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No Sympathy (0.00 / 0)
for those Super Ds who stabbed Hillary (and this nation) in the back by siding with the One.  They got greedy - he stabbed them in the back by getting all greedy on them - and now they're stuck with each other.

After all the long time friends and supporters he'd thrown under that bus of his, did they REALLY think they could avoid joining Wright, Rezko et al??

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He wouldn't life a finger for Al Franken (0.00 / 0)
with the wind at his back he could have had that Senate race wrapped up if he bothered.

It's still dragging on last I heard.


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The people (0.00 / 0)
on the web should say that it's going to cost the party and it will.

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Hear Hear!! (0.00 / 0)
Well said - ALL of it!

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Backlash already starting: DCCC pessimistic about 2010 elections (0.00 / 0)
Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee Chairman Chris Van Hollen said Friday that despite the party's recent success, Democratic candidates may face a tough environment in 2010.

http://www.politico.com/news/s...

$%#$!$@ We knew this would happen!!


Thanks! (0.00 / 0)
Thanks 'Bonehead' Bowers....

Thanks Great Orange Satan...

Thanks Larry...

All of whom I have met and all of whom bear responsibiity for destroying the online progressive movement by refusing to play real politics with The Magic Negro.

He no longer needs any of us, if he ever did, and the immense piles of nonsense those listed above along with other in the first wave of progressive bloggers has made it impossible to discuss what a truly progressive government would look like.

It's all self-referential crap.

Past time to move on.


Skinner at DU (0.00 / 0)
raised almost 200k for Obama at his site, then started banning members from his website that supported Hillary/critized Obama.

Taylor Marsh, MyDD and Talk Left started drinking the kool aid, and I had already lost all my (Edwards) friends from Dkos(alum from YK07) by this time. It was you were with us or against us type mentality :(

Thank goodness for PUMAs, Alegre, riverdaughter, capitol hill....I found I wasn't alone.

I even started a blog and still looking for hope, change and other shiny things :)

http://bloghopenchangery.wordp...


one more for the blogroll... (0.00 / 0)
...and thanks for the hits we're getting from your place.

Barack Obama's election proves that any male can grow up to be president, provided he's willing to use misogyny as a campaign strategy.

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Really? I'm honored ! (0.00 / 0)
I thought I was so under the radar...lol...it's just a little ole' bitchy country before party granny blog.  

Thankssoverymuch {hug}


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Great blog (0.00 / 0)
I love your posts.  Especially "Why does Ashley Judd Hate Caribou".  Keep the faith!

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"Always aim high, work hard, and care deeply about what you believe in. When you stumble, keep faith. When you?re knocked down, get right back up. And NEVER listen to anyone who says you can't or shouldn't go on."
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