New Denver Group Ad: Would Dean and Pelosi Have Kept FDR's Name off Ballot?

Yes, a very powerful ad (0.00 / 0)

Just spoke to a usually Republican leaning friend in Kentucky.  She tells me, "There isn't anybody to vote for, OBama and McCain are both pitiful and I want neither, who are you voting for?"

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by: militarytracy @ Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 10:18:38 AM CDT

I had a similar encounter with (0.00 / 0)

a neighbor yesterday. She and her family are ribrock Republicans (as are most in my area) so I was shocked when she told me she would have voted for Hillary. Obama?  Never.  She said she couldn't understand how the Democrats could have chosen Obama over Hillary.  "I mean, who is he - he doesn't have any experience.  And he scares me".

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by: Antigone @ Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 10:52:29 AM CDT

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a lot of pug women (0.00 / 0)

wanted Hilary, remember those don't tell my husband shirts?  It's the competency issue, she can clean up agencies and get things working.  She'll fire hacks of either party and hire experts and professionals, of either or no party.  When you're trying to fix things, and there are a limited number of workers who know what they're doing and can accomplish goals, then you need to hire them and let them do their thang.

Plans are great, but without the talent to carry out plans, they're useless.  

Hillary - alternative energy

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by: anna shane @ Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 12:34:05 PM CDT

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I had (0.00 / 0)

the MOST bizarre thing happen! I have nobama messages on my phones (and I am not changing them- I don't car who hears them!) I got a call from a HR guy for a company I am interested in. He agrees- O scares the crap out of him too! AND he is from deep south!
He loved my message and I might just get the job! Disaffected Dem not to be held against me! WHOO HOO!

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by: ProudMilitaryMom @ Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 13:27:28 PM CDT

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Great news, PMM! (0.00 / 0)

I've been praying your situation improves daily.  You deserve far better than what you're dealing with and I'm going to redouble my efforts you get that job.

There's no excuse for this, DNC.  None.

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by: LSekhmet @ Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 15:10:53 PM CDT

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Prayers are good! (0.00 / 0)

Thanks muchly. The weirdest part is the original call came from the guy who hired me for my old company. He left there as well and now has his own recruiting firm. Strange, strange, strange!

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by: ProudMilitaryMom @ Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 23:05:43 PM CDT

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Good for You! (0.00 / 0)

Loyalty pays.  And it also speaks to your critical thinking skills which are in short supply out there.  Naturally they would want you.  

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by: Antigone @ Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 17:05:43 PM CDT

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Same thing with me. (0.00 / 0)

At work, at lunch yesterday, I had the same conversation with a republican coworker.  He is a little clueless, though.  He doesn't understand why Romney, and or Guliani didn't get further.  I was clueing him in on some of their peculiarities like the dog on the roof of the car fiasco, and the video of Guliani in a skit as a woman sliding up to the Donald.  Not that that was why they lost, but those would have been more fun to work with than MCCain, twin to Bob Dole only, in borrrrring. They were only examples of their wackyness.  Anyway the repub said that he was actually pulling for Hillary because he thought she would be better than Obama.  He also came up with the elitist impression of Obo, except he used the born with a silver spoon in the mouth impression.  It sounds like he has been hanging around with PUMAs, but he hasn't. He doesn't even know what they are.  

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by: Hopscotch @ Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 16:16:05 PM CDT

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They never would have let that commie have the nomination (0.00 / 0)

In fact he was so bad they had to put in term limits after he died.

Fighting for women at Partizane

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by: NewHampster @ Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 10:38:33 AM CDT

Ain't that the truth. Lazy bastard, social security, FDIC, SEC...makes me sick. (0.00 / 0)

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by: elixir @ Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 10:44:09 AM CDT

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FDR vid (0.00 / 0)

I posted this in fdrjim's diary yesterday, but it absolutely must be here. This video gives some background on the 1932 convention. Sounds similar to what is happening in 2008. A must see:

Alice left me in Wonderland.  

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by: grlpatriot @ Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 10:48:20 AM CDT

The filter at work snatched the vid. do you have a link I can copy? (0.00 / 0)

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by: elixir @ Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 10:49:58 AM CDT

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Here you go (0.00 / 0)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

Alice left me in Wonderland.  

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by: grlpatriot @ Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 11:20:22 AM CDT

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I "borrowed" (0.00 / 0)

this and posted it at my Eons group. Good history and a great example of what can happen when we stand fast!

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by: ProudMilitaryMom @ Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 23:07:29 PM CDT

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Thanks grlpatriot (0.00 / 0)

This video finds another home at my blog too. And I will post a link to it at my fundraiser page D is for Denver

Still Hearting Hillary, In Slo-Mo toward McCain

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by: sharmajee @ Sat Jul 19, 2008 at 09:23:22 AM CDT

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Well, it's a bit spooky (0.00 / 0)

since I saw the comment/review of Obama's foreign policy speech that compared him to FDR. In cadence and content of the speech, apparently. So far he is JFK, MLK, FDR. Is BHO trying to collect the whole alphabet?

That being said, if the party "elders" had had their way, JFK wouldn't have been the nominee either. And he had a much longer and varied resume than Obama ever thought of having. Took some doing getting that nomination, too. At least it used to. Now you just dangle a mailing list and a large campaign fund and there you are, the nominee for President. Who knew it was so easy? Sheesh, Hillary should have pursued fundraising contacts during her time in politics and not wasted her time helping people have better lives. Then she would have been the shoo-in. Although, even now with all the denigration of the Clintons, most people would pay more to have dinner with Bill Clinton than they would to watch Obama eat.

So where does that leave the Democratic Party if Obama loses the election? Up the proverbial creek without a paddle..assuming Chicago has creeks. Hell, they won't even have a canoe!! Don't they realize that above all else, no matter what else they believe in, Americans value fair play? And the Democratic Party did not play fair. And everybody knows it. That is going to cost them dearly in the long run. And that is what politics is all about in the end, the long run.

Policies are not just what sounds good to the people you happen to be talking to, they are plans and funding for the LONG RUN. They will affect peoples' lives, some of them intimately. This is not something you take casually enough to dilute them into "something for everyone". A person running for office needs to have plans and funding for those plans in place on day one. Hillary does. Obama doesn't. He claims he does, but the policies are so varied and shifting, and he seems to think that current cash flow will continue, even the borrowed, that it is very unlikely he will be able to pull it together in time to keep the economy from crashing. Then it's all downhill from there.

We desperately need an FDR, which is why we need Hillary. And we are being cheated out of the chance to vote for her at the convention. That is a crime against the American people. And the Democratic Party will pay for it. Dearly.  

Live your life in such a way that when your feet
hit the floor in the morning, Satan shudders & says
'Oh $#!%'...she's awake!!

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by: FlaDemFem @ Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 11:08:00 AM CDT

the failure of leadership (0.00 / 0)

is world wide, except maybe China. It seems that as long as party power players can game democracy, we'll get the least qualified, most tractable.  

Hillary - alternative energy

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by: anna shane @ Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 12:36:17 PM CDT

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I see HRC as more like Truman, but (0.00 / 0)

your analogy is well taken.

And we need her, not Obama; Obama will only accelerate the hopelessness and despair, while Hillary R. Clinton can get the job done and get us out of this mess within a few years.  Obama can't do it 'cause he just doesn't have the skill set, and he's not about to acquire it now.

And yes, I'm with the rest of y'all who think Pelosi, Dean, and Brazile (don't forget her, please) would've kept FDR's name off the ballot.  And the US of A would've ceased to exist in 1941, if not sooner; Hitler might've even attacked us first for being a haven for Jews.

There's no excuse for this, DNC.  None.

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by: LSekhmet @ Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 15:13:30 PM CDT

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And I'm glad we were a haven, too. (0.00 / 0)

I hope that didn't read too horribly -- Hitler had a really bad attitude toward Jewish people and he may have attacked us first if he felt we were weak for all I know.  (I'm thinking "attacked us first" rather than Japan firing upon Pearl Harbor to start our participation in WWII.  I still think Hitler would've gone after all of Europe first before turning his attention to us.)

And without our help and support, I don't think England would've been able to survive long enough to do any good -- Neville Chamberlain would've taken England right down with him, because although he wasn't a bad man, he was the wrong man for the wrong time.

This is the problem with Obama -- not that he's an appeaser (I haven't seen any evidence of this), just that he's obviously the wrong man for the wrong time. And we all know it, even the DNC I am convinced -- but the DNC just doesn't care.  Because apparently they are "post-partisan," and perhaps even "post-patriotic" -- they don't care whether the US of A survives, it seems, much less survives intact.  Otherwise they'd give us the candidate we clamored for, and not the hack they've chosen.

There's no excuse for this, DNC.  None.

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by: LSekhmet @ Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 15:16:42 PM CDT

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No, Hitler did not have the (0.00 / 0)

necessary armaments to get across the Atlantic to attack us. That is why he had to take out England first, so he could use them and Ireland as a jumping off point. The Germans had no carriers like the Japanese did to launch an attack from the air. They had to do it from land, or with U-boats. We were in no real danger from the Germans, other than internal sabotage. Fortunately for the British, Hitler declared war on the US four days after Pearl Harbor, giving FDR the perfect excuse for sending help to the British, more than the LendLease program that was already in place. And since the Japanese were allies with the Germans, it all worked out properly in the end as far as the diplomatic niceties and who was entitled to go to war with whom. People don't bother with that stuff anymore, which is a pity. If they did, we sure as hell wouldn't be in Iraq.  

Live your life in such a way that when your feet
hit the floor in the morning, Satan shudders & says
'Oh $#!%'...she's awake!!

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by: FlaDemFem @ Fri Jul 18, 2008 at 07:31:06 AM CDT

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Hillary is FDR plus Truman (0.00 / 0)

No exaggeration! The Denver Group invoking FDR is quite apt, but I do agree with a poster upthread that Hillary is more like Truman, in her toughness, smarts, and strengths. Speciallly, I like the scenario of her holding a newspaper out the car window 'Dewey Defeats Truman'. Oh yeah, I have been dreaming of that! We get the best of all the worlds with Hillary, so on to Denver!

Still Hearting Hillary, In Slo-Mo toward McCain

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by: sharmajee @ Sat Jul 19, 2008 at 09:31:19 AM CDT