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Sat Jul 19, 2008 at 22:11:19 PM EDT
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Via TalkLeft via lambert, there was a panel at netroots nation this afternoon posing the burning topic:
Meta
Saturday, July 19th 4:30 PM - 5:45 PM
In this blogosphere-focused panel, moderator Chris Bowers will pose two questions-one about the Obama/Clinton conflict in the blogosphere community and the second looking at how blogs compare with other forms of social media. After a panel discussion, audience members will be given a chance to ask additional questions.
The unintentionally hilarious thing about this panel was that there were no Hillary bloggers on the panel. There were no NEUTRAL bloggers on the panel. What the "question" was I have no idea, because the existence of a question would indicate that they might not have all the answers, and of course, they did have all the answers. We're all racists. Obama did no wrong. Sexism does not exist. The Obama/Clinton "conflict", such that it is, was a simple matter of the enlightened Obama people showing the Hillary supporters the error of their ways.
Check out the comments at Talkleft- samples below the fold... |
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BTD: This is incredibly pompous and boring.
Self reflection is NOT the order of the day.
Here is a panel that I would point to as showing everything that is wrong with the Netroots.
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Does the fact they have no Clinton bloggers on this panel and I imagine in attendance it is sparse, have no effect on them?
This was certainly NOT a discussion of the blogs during the Clinton/Obama primaries.
Maybe some day they will discuss this honestly.
Valhalla: these people are annoying and substanceless. I started to listen realizing I have a bias against this panel without Clinton bloggers anyway and trying to keep myself from overreacting.
But this is substanceless and meandering.
this panel short: nothing is our fault, it's all external circumstances. Yaay! We don't have to change a thing, we're still great!
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Ok, now Cheryl is discussing how horrible her relationship with her mother is because of Clinton's massive ruthlessness.
The vitriol was all Clinton supporters' fault for adulating her ruthlessness.
All the sexism was in the media. No bloggers involved, Clinton supporters were just confused. Poor Clinton supporters, they can't help being so sad and dumb. (I'm paraphrasing).
It's not Obama's fault, his supporters are savvy internet users. They are young and hip. Clinton's supporters are old and useless with all this hip new technology.
Excuse me while I go vomit
p lukasiak: Clinton and the "meta" question
What I find interesting is that Bowers didn't see the need for a Clinton supporter when the only "question" was the "meta" nonsense. One of the most interesting "meta" issues for the blogosphere was the creation of the "split".... and the creation of a brand new "social network" centered upon support for Clinton.
To me, in terms of "meta" issues, that was THE most interesting aspect of the last year -- the way in which the "takeover" of most of the progressive blogosphere by Obots created a need for a separate and distinct "pro-Hillary" blogosphere, and how rapidly and successfully that need was met.
The fact that Bowers did not recognize the significance of that in terms of his "non-Clinton" question speaks volumes. |
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Hillary Clinton - June 7, 2008
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