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Good Gravy. Grassley calls Schumer's plan "obnoxious"

by: Alegre

Thu Jun 11, 2009 at 14:25:06 PM EDT


Chuck Grassley (R-IA) says Schumer's plan is a non-starter.  

"I think he's putting some ingredients in there that are going to make it just as obnoxious to people in my party as they whole concept of a public option," said Sen. Grassley on ABC News' "Top Line."

"And you know why we don't want a public option. We think that it's going to control costs, it's going to be an unfair competitor. It's a back door to single payer like Canada has and that's a road to denial and delay of health care or rationing, whatever you want to call it. And middle class of American won't stand for that," he added.

At least Nancy Pelosi is standing up for the public option.  She's taken a head-count and told HuffPo that she won't have the votes to pass a reform bill unless it includes a public option.  She also said that Conrad's compromise (a system of co-ops) won't be enough.  It's got to include a public option or no deal.

Meanwhile Grassley continues to be the mouthpiece for the party of NO when it comes to health care reform:  "No public option, no employee mandate to either provide insurance or pay a penalty, and nothing that leads to rationing of health care."  If you stick to Grassley's criteria here we won't have ANY changes to our current (and messed up) system.  

Well I've got news for Grassley... we've already got rationing.  With nearly 50 million Americans living without access to health care services, I defy him to show us how anything they could do in Congress could make things worse than they already are.
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No. All they have to offer is a big fat NO (0.00 / 0)
Republicans don't want change - they like things just the way they are and if there's a public plan, their pals in the insurance industry will have unwated competition.

I wish more Democrats in the Senate would stand up to the bullies and those who're trying to block reform.  Heck, from what I hear Nixon did more to fix our messed up system than guys like Conrad are.  The time for excuses is past - we need action dammit.

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nixon ruined healthcare (0.00 / 0)
nixon destroyed healthcare. the hmo was born from kaiser and nixon. schumer's plan is a crock and i willf ight it. creating a alleged pub plan fudned only through premiums and run liek aprivate one is a joke. i suport the progressive caucus' plan-a full medicare option with dental and vision coverage along with rx. it is the best one we can get. the battle rests on the house and hte progs. if they hold together then reconciliation will be forced in october. and that is what we must have.
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Baucus Says NO to Pub Opt Tonight (0.00 / 0)
baucus comes out against a pub option. many dems rebel
kennedy not in the sen is killing us
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes...
That didn't shock me - not in the least (0.00 / 0)
I've always gotten a sense Baucus would sell us out in favor of the insurance industry.

And yeah, not having Kennedy there isn't helping.  Who's standing up for us in the senate in his absence?  Anyone?  I know there were about 27 senators who signed a letter saying "no public option, no deal".  But who's putting their all into defending that with their colleagues?  Each day that passes seems to get us further and further away from a HCR plan that includes a public plan.

Meanwhile the House / Pelosi's saying they won't have the votes for HCR if there's NOT a public option in the plan.

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dodd of course! (0.00 / 0)
why dodd is standing in for kennedy. dodd-whose state is home to the insurance indsutry. dodd in wsj says he may not go with pub opt but baucus sell out co-ops
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Gillibrand signed (0.00 / 0)
and I don't think she'll back down. She's got to stick to her guns (I have some faith in her anyway) because she would shoot herself in the foot if she wimped on the public option, imo. But if she does back down, better to know now . . .

Grassley could end up pissing Schumer off, which tells me Schumer might/will dig in. Baucus is an a** and needs to be removed from the process. What happen to "everything" is on the table? They keep taking anything that would help us OFF the table. I'm glad Hillary is at State, but boy, I wish she could stop by and kick some well deserved a** in the Senate. In the House, I'm pretty sure some NY Reps won't be in without a PO, mine for one. Has Obama said he won't sign wo one? Or is that just a rhetorical question . . . .  

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without kennedy pub opt may not be (0.00 / 0)
u never know with obama. but liberals in the congress wont support a bill without a robust pub option so the house i pray doesnt cave. the leader on the pub opt is sen brown of oh. he is mtg obama tommorrow on the issue. without kennedy in dc baucus is doing crap kennedy would never do.
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It's so freakin' frustrating (0.00 / 0)
Honestly, with a Dem Pres and Dem congress, we shouldn't even be stressing over this, with or without Kennedy. I just want somebody, anybody to "go to the  mat" for us. Oh well, there's always the emergency room.
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Oh brother (0.00 / 0)
We think that it's going to control costs, it's going to be an unfair competitor.

GOD FORBID we should control costs!! And yes, it is just too much unfair competition for those poor, struggling, sad little insurance companies who are too weak to compete in the free market!

WTF?! Does anybody actually think he's making any sense?

Goddamn it, remember when getting the Bestest Most Progressive President Ever in the Whole Entire Universe was going to lead to single-payer? Yeah, me too.

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