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Mamabigdog at Daily Kos Reports Ed Shultz "Get's Religion" On Single Payer

by: masslib

Sun Aug 02, 2009 at 00:17:39 AM EDT


According to Mamabigdog at Daily Kos, Ed Shultz came to Oregon to preach the gospel of the public option, but he left a fully ordained minister of the cult of single payer.

masslib :: Mamabigdog at Daily Kos Reports Ed Shultz "Get's Religion" On Single Payer

From her diary:

Ed talked about how important it was for all of us to come out for the public option, that we can’t let the insurance companies keep setting up the game for their own benefit anymore.  This is where the Portland audience turned on him....
A mother of a teenage son with cerebral palsy told their story of being denied physical therapy for more than two visits a year, simply because her son was over the age of 12.  He used to walk, and now he can’t.  Single payer is the answer, she said...Ed was not yet moved by this.  The public option is do-able, he said.  He wanted to work for what was achievable.   He acknowledged that single payer would be the best way to go, but flatly stated there was not enough support...

A man from the UK came up to speak about the healthcare system there, which saved his brother from cancer recently.  How long did he have to wait for care, Ed asked?  No time at all, was the answer.  The tumor was discovered and the brother was in the ER within a day.  16 weeks of chemo followed, and all was covered by the UK’s single payer plan...

The tide was starting to turn for Big Ed.  

We heard from more audience members promoting single payer.  People from Jobs With Justice andMad As Hell Doctors came and spoke up for workers who lose care because its tied to their jobs and patients that need care who can’t get it....

And then Dr. Frankel, a Portland pediatrician since 1965 took the floor.  The good doctor talked about how he and others like him just want to help their patients.  He said that the co-op/exchange system is already a known failure in Massachusetts.  The plan costs and deductibles are too high, pushing people into the zone of $20K+ in medical bills that result in over 62% of all bankruptcies in this country today. ....He said that we needed Ed’s voice to be the clarion call to stand up for all of us on single payer.

Then he told Ed that just hours before, Speaker Pelosi guaranteed that a single payer amendment to the health care bill, HR 676, would get a full debate and vote in the house after the August recess.   Dr. Frankel got a standing ovation from the overheated packed house....This was the final turning point for Ed Schultz.  He had heard enough.  Ed promised everyone in that room that he would start pushing for single payer on the radio, on TV and at his appearances...

While most of the A List blogs continue to ignore single payer advocacy, the comments in this diary were very supportive.  This isn't really about Ed Shultz.  I think this is a window into the way ordinary people are viewing the health reform debate.  This is about all the people who came out and said "Hell no!", we don't want a public option, we want public health care.  I believe there are people all over this great country wondering what this fandangled health plan is all about.  They don't care if they get to choose who pays the bills, they want to choose their doctor, they want their doctor to help them choose their treatment, and they don't want to have to worry about how their care is paid for, they just want it paid.  I agree with Pelosi, health insurers are "villians", let's get rid of them.  Let's save money, make equitable health care a birth right, and put our working people first for a change.

Someone called this Single Payer Summer, and I think that's what it is.  Talk to a neighbor, a friend, a coworker, a family member and ask them to stand up and be heard. 

Here are a number of sites that can help you contact your congressperson and ask them to vote for single payer this fall:

http://www.pnhp.org/

http://www.1payer.net/index.php

http://www.now.org/

http://www.democrats.com/

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What is it about the stimulus plan that is cutting medicare reimbursement? (4.00 / 3)
My 82 year old mother is in the hospital with a broken arm and delirium induced by infection, worsened by leukemia.  The hospital is trying to kick her out (the social worker they employ is protecting their bottom line, not her health)--to the point of ginning up reports saying she can walk by herself (she cannot).  As I understand this new plan, the hospital will be dunned by the government now for every day a patient stays past 92 hours.  The hospital is not full, the extended care is and they want to keep the bed for someone they can charge more, I guess.  You'd think an economic stimulus would pay for things, not charge for them.  Cash for clunkers but tossing a frail ill old woman out in the street.  Nice country we have now.

Luckily her doctor says only he can discharge her, and won't send her home as she would be unsafe (alone) but evidently the doctors the hospital employs kowtow to the social worker and discharge people to keep the money flowing. no matter their status.  

So far what Obama has done on health care has made things a lot worse.  Under single payer, no power tripping social worker would be able to threaten the health and safety of a sick old woman for the sake of money.


Oh, I am so sorry. (4.00 / 2)
My heart goes out to you and your mom.

Medicare for All is Civil Rights

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Alas, those have always been the rules under Medicare (4.00 / 2)
My father was discharged from the hospital after pneumonia and sent to a nursing home for further recovery.  Once a patient is stabilized to the extent that they no longer need acute care, they are forced to move along.   It's fortunate that you have a doctor to advocate for her and this should help a bit.

I hope things start to go better for your mom.  



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Evidently though there is a new change making things worse (4.00 / 1)
..the hospital is so freaked about them that they are now pushing people out when they are NOT recovered, to the point of manufacturing false reports of her condition.  

According to her doctor, it is new fines and cuts in reimbursement motivating this.  

She had a similar injury two years ago and they kept her until she actually could get up to the walker, and to the bathroom, all by herself (longer than she wanted to stay!).  And she wasn't having dementia then.  


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my mom (4.00 / 2)
had the best supplemental insurance available, she was covered for a private room, and anything doctor-ordered, and she was treated the same way, six to a room, no frills. Her personal doctor didn't come to the hospital at all, they had a fellow in the practice whose job it was to go to the hospital, and he was never there when i was there, and i was there a lot. They refused to give her oxygen at home, they changed her room three times, and wheeled her through the halls undressed, she was 83, and did not send a home health care nurse to her, as promised, and since she was staying with me I knew. She died six months later, and two weeks before she died her doctor was trying to make her take a diabetes awareness class cause she was 'at risk,' (I stopped her).  She loved her doctor, who was a pretty young woman, and could see no fault in her at all.  She paid for the best and didn't get it.  But, she got to choose her own doctor?  (Not when she was in the hospital).  She got no toward the end of life counseling at all, and obviously her doctor knew nothing, imagine sending a weak and ill woman to diabetes awareness classes?  

sorry, I'm still bitter.  

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I can't stand Shultz for what he did to HRC last year. (4.00 / 2)
I even waited on my cell phone for 60 minutes to tell him about her only to have him bloviate over how much he admires her and was not kissing Obama's behind.

So I am positive that if Shultz is now behind single-payer his first motivation is ratings.  (I still can't believe that gasbag has his ugly mug (which has undergone plastic surgery) on the teevee.

That said....I am thrilled when anyone speaks up and out for single payer.  Just don't trust his motivations or pat him on the head like a good little boy.

Shultz sucks.  But he can suck and still support single payer.


Exactly CC. (4.00 / 2)
Strange bedfellows, right.

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