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We're not finished folks - not by a long shot!

Can We Kick this Fraud Out of the Party Yet?

by: Pacific John

Thu Jan 07, 2010 at 13:51:13 PM EST


If this doesn't make you mad, nothing will:

Look at the audience he's pumping up. I rarely get mad at Obama, because from the moment I saw his campaign on the ground, I knew that we regular Dems were the cops, and he was the crook. It's mostly dispassionate for me. How else can you feel about a guy who sends assault teams into Hispanic and other working class caucus state neighborhoods to suppress their vote?

But this makes me mad. And I really do feel for the narrator of this video, who I'm sure feels deeply betrayed, and madder than I can imagine.

Pacific John :: Can We Kick this Fraud Out of the Party Yet?
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Reagan-lite (0.00 / 0)
I can't begin to tell you how mad (not disappointed) I and my co-workers are at this boob.

We not only get union health care coverage, we provide it too. As an employee one of the largest and last remaining union providers we're all waiting for the hammer to fall.  

This man has now devastated our business and the unions that supported him.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/...

He has become a Judas to all who believed in him. And we will all pay the price in the next election cycle.

So much good could have been done but an inexperienced corporate lackey has and his minions have destroyed any chance of bringing this nation back from the depths of despair we felt under 'w'.  


I will get SCREWED by the Cadillac tax - - (0.00 / 0)
I opted for less pension and better health benefit!  Now, I'll be taxed?
And, see what will happen when they cut medicare / medicaid to subsidize this private insurance scam - -
http://farrightdemocrat.blogsp...

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All of my (0.00 / 0)
employees in their 50's will get hit heavily by this since their premiums for our regular PPO here in CA are about $1,000/mo.

I got heavily involved in the presidential contest to help the odds of UHC with a real public option, and instead, I'm getting screwed with what is likely to be a huge tax bill, no regulation, or expectation of controlled premiums.

The bitter truth is that if McCain had won, we would have deep-sixed Romneycare. Only Nixon can go to China, and only Obama can screw the base of the party on behalf of insurance companies.

So, Mr. Obama, please explain once more why a business owner like me who tries to offer a solid benefit package should be punished for it?  


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Should be repeated: (0.00 / 0)
The bitter truth is that if McCain had won, we would have deep-sixed Romneycare. Only Nixon can go to China, and only Obama can screw the base of the party on behalf of insurance companies.


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BREAKING: MIT Economist backing Cadillac Tax Paid $400,000 by Administration (0.00 / 0)
It just keeps getting better.

FireDogLake (quoting Politico story) - http://emptywheel.firedoglake....

MIT health economist Jonathan Gruber has been the go-to source that all the health care bill apologists point to to defend otherwise dubious arguments.  But he has consistently failed to disclose that he has had a sole-source contract with the Department of Health and Human Services since June 19, 2009 to consult on the "President's health reform proposal."

He is one source for the claim that the excise tax will result in raises for workers (though his underlying study is in-apt to the excise tax question). He is the basis for the argument that the Senate bill reduces families' risk-even if it remains totally unaffordable. Even Politico stenographer Mike Allen points to Gruber's research.

But none of the references to Gruber I've seen have revealed that Gruber has a $297,600 contract with HHS to produce,

Ezra Klein says he didn't know this every time he quoted MIT Economist Gruber, who also designed RomneyCare http://voices.washingtonpost.c...


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Can We Kick this Fraud Out of the Party Yet? (0.00 / 0)
Simple answers to simple questions:

No.

The Democratic Party is rotten to the core. The legacy parties cannot be reformed, and so they must first be bypassed and undermined, and then they must be destroyed.


Can't watch him but (0.00 / 0)
Yes, lambert, both are rotten to the core. But so will any other party be, unless we can get around the corporation influence buying machine. How are we going to do that?

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I don't know... (0.00 / 0)
... but I think that the only way forward is to talk to each directly, local to local, without funneling anything through Versailles.

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Great video find, John. (0.00 / 0)
It's bad now.  I wonder how it will be a year from now.  It's just like those of us for Hillary knew exactly what we were getting into.  Another mirage presented to us by the "US Democracy" system.

At least WE can look back and say "we told you so", but it's really bittersweet, but too many US citizens have been trained by the system to grow up "consumers" of products and imagery that paint false pictures and expectations that can never be met.

I saw this when I first moved to the US from Germany in 1969.  I was astounded and appalled at the commercialism and the poor quality of products.  One of the most galling things I felt I had to deal with was the constant interruption of tv shows with commercials.

Back in Germany tv commercials were only allowed in between programs, and only for a few minutes.  I kept wondering why and how people could stand this constant interruption of thought processes (to get them to buy something, anything).  That was back in 1969, and the system has succeeded in dumbing people down enough so that they now support their own downfall without blinking - they truly don't know what's happening.

I had flashes of the very things that are happening right this very moment way back then.

Don't get me wrong - I LOVE America.  Otherwise I would have moved back.  I still can, but I'm organically bound to this continent: through its wildlands, its pre-European culture.  I want to fight for THOSE values.  Germany is doing okay, better than most.  But I'm needed here.

It's tough, though, as my opinions are far to the left of anything approaching the national direction, and I run into problems with my (German mainstream public) thoughts even on the most liberal places of expression.

I long for Hillary still.  I don't know how she can do what she is doing, but I admire her deeply for her fortitude, persistence, and risk-taking.

I'm sure she is quite aware of what she's gotten herself into, but she truly is a public servant.  I wish we had more like her.


With Hillary, Things Would Have Been So Different... (0.00 / 0)
I can't allow myself to dwell on that because watching this marooooooon is sometimes more than I can bear.  And if he did resign, look what comes right behind him...yuck!!

"Say What You Will...It Feels So Good"


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Just came across this great article (0.00 / 0)
Short but right in line with my thoughts above:

http://www.truthout.org/articl...


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i don't feel bad for the NM dad at ALL! (0.00 / 0)
Are you kidding me? He gets what he deserves. He did this to himself, to his children and to everyone else in the country. He is at fault. I didn't watch the whole thing, but he should freakin' apologize to all democrats who didn't fall for obama's bs.

Maybe, (0.00 / 0)
but I believe in redemption. What this guy is doing has gone viral, and has done a large amount of work toward making BHO appear to other Dems the way we've known him to be.

If this guy were to embrace the over 50% of Dems who got screwed in '08, I'd welcome him with open arms.

That said, I take you point, that BHO activists have a certain amount or responsibility to those of us who were right two years too early and just wanted a few things like Hillary's health care plan.


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Amen brother!! (0.00 / 0)
They can never stop working to right those wrongs....there is much to do.  And, you have to give them some credit for owning up to how wrong they were.

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Good video - O's voice doesn't dominate (0.00 / 0)
and so it's watchable!!

On the ticket but (0.00 / 0)
Obama never really ran as a Democrat.  From the start he attacked core constituencies of the Democratic party (the left, unions, rural southerners).  He promoted the idea of a personal candidacy and only a personal candidacy at the direct expense of the national party (Democrat for a Day campaigns).  He talked non-partisan surrender and offered the worst health plan among the candidates.  He played the dirtiest campaign of any Democrat against democrats for President in at least a century and probably ever.

He also at the very least used racism consistently.  All his opponents or critics were racists.  This was easily the most racist campaign since George Wallace and may have surpassed him.  Jesse Jackson had a few bad moments in an inclusive, national campaign based on core Democratic values.  Not so with Obama.

Very importantly to me, he debased the memory of Martin Luther King in attacking Hillary turning an American hero who brought people of all races together into a racist, black-only power broker.  If we wanted that, we would have been celebrating Stokely Carmichael's birthday, not Martin Luther King's.  I resent what he did to Hillary and I resent what he did to Martin Luther King bitterly.

Martin Luther King was a great man.  Obama is a great egotist and opportunist who climbed on the backs of blacks and kids and now consigns them to the dustbin while he favors bankers and insurer "buddies."

The famous line of course is that he who fails to remember history is doomed to repeat it.  What Obama did was to distort history for his own benefit like in "1984."  Or worse.

I still can't watch him on TV.  I thought it was impossible to get a President worse than George W. Bush but we have one.  Because he actually does what Bush only talked about.  Social Security and Medicare are next on his agenda.  He's worse than Hoover who at least meant well.  Worse than Reagan.  Worse, I think, than Cleveland.  Only Buchanan saves him from being the worst President ever.

Yeah, he's the one all right.


I agree (0.00 / 0)
and I believe Obama was funded by sources (domestic and foreign) who wanted to, first, destroy the Democratic Party and then destroy America.

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Ditto (0.00 / 0)
And not he (and the other egotists in the white house) are attacking or running out the party moderates, centrist or left.

HOPE indeed.


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Man (0.00 / 0)
Obama is such a sleazebag.  

LOL Ga6th (0.00 / 0)
I appreciate that succint summary. He really is a sleazebag. I am astonished to note how much worse he is than I expected--and my expectations were very, very low. Really it's no exxaggeration to say that he is worse than Bush, mind-boggling though that is!!

I'm so done with the Democrats it isn't even funny. Not that either party interests me, I'm a Green for life I guess.


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He's worse than Bush (0.00 / 0)
because he says one thing and then turns around and does the complete opposite.  At least with Bush we got to know his agenda, as despicable as it was.

With Obama, we know nothing about his motivations, but it appears that he wants badly to please the power-brokers responsible for the whole damn mess.


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Never, ever, support a politician on faith (0.00 / 0)
Why the geniuses in our white latte liberal economic class did is still a mystery to me.

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Because it was in their interests to do so... (0.00 / 0)
... especially those in Versailles, and because they talked themselves into thinking his values were really "progressive" enough (whatever that means these days).

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I had one friend (0.00 / 0)
who said, in response to my point that Hillary had experience dealing with the mechanisms of government, that Obama's lack of experience was better, because he would be open to new ideas.  And that he was a great man, a transformative person, etc, etc, etc.  I just think that they were so enamored of the idea, that they'd engage in whatever manner of pretzel logic they had to in order to justify their infatuation.

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another one: (0.00 / 0)
from Marianne Williamson:

"They have no idea how many people are thinking, as I am, that it's time to face the facts, no matter how painful they are.  If Obama doesn't retrieve his spine and retrieve it soon, then his Presidency will go down in the history books as one of the biggest disappointments in American history."    (italics and bold mine)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...

Of course, one has to wonder why Marianne still thinks he ever had a spine to begin with.

 


Excellent Point.... (0.00 / 0)
In addition to that, I believe he is just plain lazy and has no interest in anything other than celebrity.

"Say What You Will...It Feels So Good"


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That would make him (0.00 / 0)
the Arnold Schwarzenegger of our side, except without the work ethic. We've been looking at Carter as an example of where his approval will end, but I think Arnold's might be a better metric.

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She asks "where does a democrat go . . .?" (0.00 / 0)
Maybe, next time, TO SUPPORT THE DEMOCRAT, not the Johnny-come-recordless-lately.

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"Always aim high, work hard, and care deeply about what you believe in. When you stumble, keep faith. When you?re knocked down, get right back up. And NEVER listen to anyone who says you can't or shouldn't go on."
Hillary Clinton - June 7, 2008

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