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We're not finished folks - not by a long shot!

Extreme Offense

by: Anna Belle

Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 20:12:39 PM EDT


I had a revelation in the shower this morning, after reading yet another abusive superdelegate e-mail over at Cannonfire. To get right to the point, I think Democrats are playing extreme offense. By extreme offense I mean I think they are dropping the "soft" part of their base, keeping the bully-faction, and going after the Republican bully-faction. It's the only thing that makes sense. I suspect they want to gut the Democratic and Republican parties both, purge on one end, all gluttony on the other. They want to change the game entirely by trading players and points. What else explains their outrageous actions both during the campaign season and since? What else can possibly explain the treatment of every day voters at the hands superdelegates via these e-mails? Have you ever heard of such a thing yourself? Of any politician or Party employee actually thinking it's a good idea to say things like these:
Anna Belle :: Extreme Offense
Donna Brazile: "Stop the hate. Not sure if you know, but we are keeping copies of all these emails in the archives. Yes, you are not going to get away with pretending to be for Hillary. She is a leader of the Dem party."

Former DNC chair Don Fowler: "I must confess a bit of fatigue and irritation with people who continue to carp, complain, and criticize the results of the primary and lay down conditions for their support. The Los Angeles Lakers didn't establish conditions to recognize the Boston Celtics as NBA Champions; Roger Federer did not demand concessions before recognizing that Rafael Nadal defeated him at Wimbledon.

California DNCer Garry Shay: "The racist bullsh**I have gotten from my fellow Clinton supporters has been enough to make me puke. You have a choice. No one would be forcing you. It is a choice. A choice you will have to live with. 100 years in Iraq if McCain gets elected. Thousands more dead American Soldiers."

WA Democratic Chairman Dwight Pelz: "Man, you have to chill. Try tennis."

CA superdelegate Steven Ybarra: "Good for you, when the fascists come in the middle of the night to take you to a concentration camp, remember how you voted. Take me off your whiner list . . .then tell them to stop calling me telling me that they are going to vote for mccain. i am would rather vote for a rabid dog than any Fascist republican like mccain. read the declaration of independence."

DNCer Ben Johnson: "When God was giving out brains...you thought he said trains...and you missed yours. Who gives a croc what you do, its your business fool."

AZ superdelegate Carolyn Warner: "GOD WILL GUIDE THE HAND OF JUDGMENT THAT WILL STRIKE YOU DOWN! Do not email us again. Thank you."


No professional in their right mind would ever think it was appropriate to respond to concerns from the field in this manner. If the DNC were a company, either public or private, each of these people would be out of job as soon as those e-mails came to light. And they have come to light, and have even been published on Politico. The only way any professional person would ever send anything like these responses is if their boss told them the point of contact's business didn't matter, and to get rid of them as soon as possible. Which brings me to the next part of my revelation.

Do you remember this from that New Yorker article that no one ever read, because everyone was too busy talking about the cover?

One day in the spring of 2001, about a year after the loss to Rush, Obama walked into the Stratton Office Building, in Springfield, a shabby nineteen-fifties government workspace for state officials next to the regal state capitol. He went upstairs to a room that Democrats in Springfield called "the inner sanctum." Only about ten Democratic staffers had access; entry required an elaborate ritual-fingerprint scanners and codes punched into a keypad. The room was large, and unremarkable except for an enormous printer and an array of computers with big double monitors. On the screens that spring day were detailed maps of Chicago, and Obama and a Democratic consultant named John Corrigan sat in front of a terminal to draw Obama a new district. Corrigan was the Democrat in charge of drawing all Chicago districts, and he also happened to have volunteered for Obama in the campaign against Rush.

Obama's former district had been drawn by Republicans after the 1990 census. But, after 2000, Illinois Democrats won the right to redistrict the state. Partisan redistricting remains common in American politics, and, while it outrages a losing party, it has so far survived every legal challenge. In the new century, mapping technology has become so precise and the available demographic data so rich that politicians are able to choose the kinds of voter they want to represent, right down to individual homes. A close look at the post-2000 congressional map of Bobby Rush's district reveals that it tears through Hyde Park in a curious series of irregular turns. One of those lines bypasses Obama's address by two blocks. Rush, or someone looking out for his interests, had carved the upstart Obama out of Rush's congressional district.

In truth, Rush had little to worry about; Obama was already on a different political path. Like every other Democratic legislator who entered the inner sanctum, Obama began working on his "ideal map." Corrigan remembers two things about the district that he and Obama drew. First, it retained Obama's Hyde Park base-he had managed to beat Rush in Hyde Park-then swooped upward along the lakefront and toward downtown. By the end of the final redistricting process, his new district bore little resemblance to his old one. Rather than jutting far to the west, like a long thin dagger, into a swath of poor black neighborhoods of bungalow homes, Obama's map now shot north, encompassing about half of the Loop, whose southern portion was beginning to be transformed by developers like Tony Rezko, and stretched far up Michigan Avenue and into the Gold Coast, covering much of the city's economic heart, its main retail thoroughfares, and its finest museums, parks, skyscrapers, and lakefront apartment buildings. African-Americans still were a majority, and the map contained some of the poorest sections of Chicago, but Obama's new district was wealthier, whiter, more Jewish, less blue-collar, and better educated. It also included one of the highest concentrations of Republicans in Chicago.

"It was a radical change," Corrigan said. The new district was a natural fit for the candidate that Obama was in the process of becoming. "He saw that when we were doing fund-raisers in the Rush campaign his appeal to, quite frankly, young white professionals was dramatic."


All bolding mine.

What if this same thing were being done with Democratic Party politics? What if Obama had convinced a small number of insiders starting with the most easily corrupted, like, say, nearly all of our Democratic Senators, to redesign the game? Just like they did with this gerry-mandered map. Say they reasoned that they kept losing, so the best chance to win would be to take some players from the other side, eating into their numbers, at the same time they demoralized factions within the Democratic Party they saw as unnecessary or uncooperative? This would definitely include women's groups.

To bring another thread in, this also goes along with Markos Moulitsas and Jerome Armstrong's book Crashing the Gate. I refer you to chapter 2, This Ain't No Party:

The Democratic Party for too long has been a group of constituencies instead of a party. ~Howard Dean, June 4, 2005

Yes, that Howard Dean, the head of the DNC. That's how the chapter opens, and then it goes on to bemoan the fact that the Democratic Party is a "gaggle of special and narrow interests, often in conflict with each other, rarely working in concert to advance their common cause." This rhetoric ignores entirely the purpose of the Democratic Party, which is to unite the powerless against the powerful. Of course it's a gaggle of interests groups. But what Kos and Jerome are actually arguing here is against accountability. They are complaining that elected Democrats have to be beholden to Democratic voters, who are interested in issues. This is different than the appeal of Republicans, which is focused on so-called character. Of course, Republicans have to rely on cults of personality, because they can't run on issues, as their rhetoric deliberately obfuscates issues to disguise the fact that they perform so badly on them. This is the refreshing--and make no mistake, now threatened--difference between Democrats and Republicans.

But it won't be if these folks have their way. The second chapter of Crashing the Gate goes on to name the constituencies, and the so-called problems with each one of them. What they all have in common, of course, is that they demand accountability to their cause. But Markos and Jerome argue that these groups should just "get over it" already, and accept the fact that we have to have pro-life Democrats, that we have to have blue dogs, and Bush dogs. They argue that these kinds of Democrats can be disciplined in caucus into voting Democratic, so the only thing that matters if the -D after their name. It is that last argument that reveals their true authoritarian inclinations. Rather than finding people to elect as Democrats who have actual Democratic values, they'll elect anyone who claims to be a Democrat and then try to force them into agreement. Of course what they are really doing here is promising out of both sides of their mouths, both to the candidates and the voters. And the result is their personal enrichment.

This kind of politicking plays right into my extreme offense theory. Take out a bunch of the Republican side via conversion (which leads to a direct reduction of their numbers), while purging the factions within in your own group that will hold you accountable and prove unsavory to the new converts. Don't women's groups fit this bill to a T?

So do gays and poor black men, both of which the Obama camp has thrown under the bus. And why wouldn't they, if these are their values? Winning over ethics, purging for personal gain, cronyism. Those are their values. And gays are, what, 3, maybe 4% of Democratic voters? Poor black men, well, that's what all of this rhetoric about "black fathers" is all about. What Obama means by "black fathers" is poor black men, who are often fathers because of their lack of access to both education and birth control, and who are also, co-incidentally, often disenfranchised via criminal records. It's sick, because it's using the racism of the system against people of his own race, but then black leaders taking advantage of regular black folks is nothing new at all.

This would also explain some otherwise inexplicable decisions, like going after evangelicals. Or selecting a Republican VP, having Republicans in his cabinet, and his naked appeals to them throughout the campaign, (hos whole career, actually) etc. It also explains the constant attempts to provoke more Clinton Derangement Syndrome. The Clinton's can have no part in extreme offense, for they are Democrats with actual Democratic values, and they would object. And people might listen to them.

Extreme offense is what Republicans did to Democrats in 1980, for the record. It's the reason for the term Reagan Democrats. But as Anglachel has pointed out, it wasn't working class folks so much as middle class and upper middle class folks who migrated. Sound familiar? Doesn't it look just like the Obama campaign is taking out the trash? I suspect they think they are with this little gambit. Extreme offense is new right now, an unproven theory, on the left anyway. All it needs is one big win, like Obama and the presidency, and it will be validated. That's why this fight is so imperative. I think it's also why we are getting such abuse from powerful Democrats, and why we are constantly feeling outraged every time they cross another line. That's exactly what they want.

Cross posted at Peacocks and Lilies

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Extreme Offense | 34 comments
interesting analysis (0.00 / 0)
it does seem strange that the DNC doesn't do anything about the smearing of voters who are trying to be heard by party leaders. They're not just saying shut up and go away, they're saying hateful things to decent citizens who want fair representation.  

One reason might be unconscious, to blame us if Barrack loses. Another might well be that the party has moved further to the center and wants to take up the space of the old pug party, before they became neo-con. Another might be keeping their jobs, Hillary fires hacks and she'd have brought accountability to Washington.

How hard is it to listen, and then disagree if you must. How hard is it to be polite. These people supposedly work for us.  Many of us have been workers for the party for decades, and small donors. Why must we be smeared with hate speech?  

This explanation sound reasonable, but too smart for the fools we have supposedly representing our interests.  If after all this Barack loses and we were right, we needed to put our best candidate out there, and not the least experienced fellow no one knows what will do, put the candidate who talks issues, not dreams and accusations, will they then know we are the party base and we weren't wrong?  


Hillary - alternative energy


Who is party chair if Obama loses (0.00 / 0)
is it still his party?

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good questioin (0.00 / 0)
it's not up to him, but they'd probably give him that perk, and he's probably promised Dean a job for life.  If he loses, it's a vote by some DNC committee?  

If he loses, we will have help reforming the party, some are letting them do there thang, maybe Hillary is one, thinking, maybe it'll work, maybe this will bring what we want, maybe he can win and would unite the country if he wins. One can't see into the future, but if he loses, all their assumptions will be patently false and we would have given up our best chance not just to elect a president, but to enact reforms that may keep another George Bush from the ability to take us to war on a whim.  

Hillary - alternative energy


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Dean promised to only serve one term (0.00 / 0)
I think that was a restriction for all DNC chairs.

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When is his one term up? (0.00 / 0)
It can't come soon enough.  Do you think he's broken the all-time record for requests for his resignation?


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Oddly unprofessional of them (0.00 / 0)
It's curious.

I think that's what ultimately provoked this revelation (0.00 / 0)
I just kept wondering what on earth could possibly explain such rampant and blatantly rude e-mails. It is utterly unprofessional. Then that scene from the New Yorker flashed in my mind, and I realized that they truly think they don't need us anymore, and this is probably why.

I don't think it's all that far-fetched, especially considering the incredible secrecy within the Dem leadership in recent years. And I suspect even Hillary Clinton couldn't run on how she would actually govern. I was pretty sure that Hillary intended to hold Republicans at bay with investigations if they even tried to do to her what they did to Bill (and you knew they would). And I was highly in favor of that. But I was also aware that she could not run on that. Just as Gore could not run on what he would really do, which was kick some environmental ass. Democrats have gotten in the habit of campaigning to the middle, even if they intend to govern from the left. This is because Republican rhetoric has been so effective using Democratic values to assassinate the character of whatever Democrat is running, regardless of what the truth is. Kerry deserved to have his character attacked, because he had a poor one. Gore and Hillary, not so much. Same technique, though.

Sorry to be long-winded...

I'm a Stantonian Democrat.


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kos and the pie wars (0.00 / 0)
remember he called them the "sanctimonious women's set"? I actually sided with him back then. Yep, would not be surprised if he was some consultant to Obama this year, and said screw the women's groups, and Obama already wanted to reach out to evangelicals. UGGGH! This makes me so mad.

Pretty good theory. There is definitely some realignment going on. And Donna Brazille loudly hinted at this - would not be surprised if Dean, Brazille, Obama, have all had smoke room discussions over this.


and (0.00 / 0)

Brazille was probably texting Rove on her cell phone while in the smoke room discussions with Dean and Obama.

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I would say the fact of a Rove-Brazile friendship (0.00 / 0)
is no mistake. There's definitely the stamp of conservatism on this thing somehow, whether they are advising in some way, or the Dem Party is just adopting tactics and rhetoric wholesale in a game of extreme offense.

I'm a Stantonian Democrat.

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Dang I never read that diary (0.00 / 0)
too much to read on the Internet.

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the fact that obama's openly talking about changes in social security... (0.00 / 0)
...is a pretty strong indication that he no longer considers one core democratic constituency necessary. for obama, it's all about registering new voters. he's also given up on women. i just don't think there are enough blogger boyz to win this election for him. and a significant percentage of the electorate HATES blogger boyz.

Barack Obama's election proves that any male can grow up to be president, provided he's willing to use misogyny as a campaign strategy.

That SS bullshit is to attract young voters (0.00 / 0)
young people all go through this phase:
they think SS won't be there and they want to dismantle before too many tax dollars go into it.
Then in a few years they get a peak at how much they've paid into it.
Then their parents get older and they think hey I, too will be old some day.

And the hysteria about SS fades, or flips into hysteria that somebody might dismantle it.


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exactly right. eom. (0.00 / 0)


I'm a Stantonian Democrat.

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Women, Seniors, Working People... (0.00 / 0)
how much room is there under that bus, anyway?

At the rate he's going there won't be anyone left to ride it except twenty-somethings who haven't figured out that a presidential candidate should be about issues, not about a personality cult.


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After this election, kos is in the wilderness (0.00 / 0)
His stupid theory lost us an election we should have won in a walk. And is he even a Democrat? He told Charlie Rose he's more of a Libertarian-Democrat. He wanted a career, fame, he got all that. But he's racked up a record of backing losing candidates.

From Obama's syllabus - public shools for black boys only (0.00 / 0)
Maybe women are not part of his redistricted Democratic Party.
Group Project Suggested Topics
1) The All-Black, All-Male School -- A number of public school systems, including those in Detroit and Milwaukee, have initiated pilot programs whereby inner-city black males are voluntarily placed in a segregated learning environment, with black male teachers, an Afrocentric curriculum, etc. Proponents say that given the unique problems facing black males, such "self-segregation" contributes to self-esteem and enhances learning performance. Opponents argue that these programs are a betrayal of Brown v. Board of Education, discriminate against whites and females, stigmatizes black males, and politicizes school curriculums.

"Discriminate against whites and females" - maybe it's a Chicago thing, but in Hawaii there were more races than just black, white.


That is an interesting mix of Obama's early (0.00 / 0)
education and Trinity's Afro-centrist views. Obama spent his formative years in a Muslim country where women were not considered the equals of men. This is an attitude that he has apparently carried forward into adulthood. It mixed well with Trinity's views which were centered on the men getting ahead rather than helping the women do the same. The thing is that it isn't going to go over well in a country where the electorate is 52% women. So let him spout his "men are superior and deserve more" crap, it won't help him at the voting booth.

It's one thing to back off and let your hubby take the lead to keep his pride in public, it's another to let him run your life for you. And the rest of us "girls" aren't going to sit quietly and say nothing while the men run everything. After all, look at the mess the country is in, and who is responsible? Men. Yup, men did it. So as far as I can see, the only thing men are better at than women is making a mess. They sure as hell don't know squat about cleaning one up!!

The thing is that Obama really believes that he, and other men, are superior to women. He is just humoring us because we vote. Well, I am not laughing. And I am not voting for him. Sorry about the rant, but he just gets my goat sometimes. Grrrrrrrrrrrrr..

Live your life in such a way that when your feet
hit the floor in the morning, Satan shudders & says
'Oh $#!%'...she's awake!!


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That is an interesting mix of Obama's early (0.00 / 0)
education and Trinity's Afro-centrist views. Obama spent his formative years in a Muslim country where women were not considered the equals of men. This is an attitude that he has apparently carried forward into adulthood. It mixed well with Trinity's views which were centered on the men getting ahead rather than helping the women do the same. The thing is that it isn't going to go over well in a country where the electorate is 52% women. So let him spout his "men are superior and deserve more" crap, it won't help him at the voting booth.

It's one thing to back off and let your hubby take the lead to keep his pride in public, it's another to let him run your life for you. And the rest of us "girls" aren't going to sit quietly and say nothing while the men run everything. After all, look at the mess the country is in, and who is responsible? Men. Yup, men did it. So as far as I can see, the only thing men are better at than women is making a mess. They sure as hell don't know squat about cleaning one up!!

The thing is that Obama really believes that he, and other men, are superior to women. He is just humoring us because we vote. Well, I am not laughing. And I am not voting for him. Sorry about the rant, but he just gets my goat sometimes. Grrrrrrrrrrrrr..

Live your life in such a way that when your feet
hit the floor in the morning, Satan shudders & says
'Oh $#!%'...she's awake!!


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You could even say Chicago were his formative years (0.00 / 0)
adolescence lasts until about 30 these days. And rant away, you are not alone.

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Extension of his formative years, I meant (0.00 / 0)
but his Indonesian years, exposed to women being inferior, were much more impressionable, yes.

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Interesting theory (0.00 / 0)
I'm not sure whether I think about what as going on the same as you, but let me give it a try.

Krugman on several occasions explained his theory of the Republican "coalition."  Its made up of rich white males who are trying to protect and expand their share of the pie and poor racist white males.  Krugman didn't use these words, of course, but that's the sub-text.

What struck him as odd, is that these poor white males vote against their own economic interest when they vote Republican.  All of these pro-market policies that disable the safety net and widen the distribution of income, disadvantage poor white males.

So why does it work? Rich white males vote their economic interest.  Poor white males vote their values.  Its a nice arrangement for the rich guys because they get their economic interests addressed.

It was this group of poor white males that Howard Dean wanted to go after when he got in so much trouble for talking about going after southern white men flying the confederate flag.  Dean, and perhaps Obama, see these poor while males as naturally (and traditionally) part of the Democratic coalition.

For a while, I started to think that women are to the Democratic coalition what poor white males are to the Republican coalition: a group of voters that can be counted on to vote their values.  So our real economic and political interests can be ignored.

However, Anna Belle, if I understand your reasoning, Obama is going after those poor white males, which means he has to soft-pedal the attention he pays to women and poor black males.

My problem, and I suppose my confusion, is this.  I understand what the Republicans were trying to do.  The capitalist interests in the Party were after a greater share of the wealth.  They played poor white males as a strategy to advance their own economic interests.

But what does Obama and his core constituency want?  They don't care about the traditional things that Democrats want.  The rich white people in his coalition are just getting played.  So what interest is he advancing?  What is his true underlying motivation?


They want to be famous (0.00 / 0)
kos, Obama, that's what they want.

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They want power (0.00 / 0)
and the perks that come with power!

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Thay want money, fame AND power (0.00 / 0)
As well as a place in the history books. We'll have to administer a dose of tough love come November and deny them their infantile fantasies.  

I'm a Stantonian Democrat.

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That's a simplification on Krugman's part (0.00 / 0)
if that's how he put it. There are way more people than white males supporting the Republican party in it's recent ascension. There's a whole class in the middle that he missed, for instance. And more than a few women.

I don't even think Obama is foolish enough to think he can go after poor white southern males. But he can go after their similarly evangelical children, and he is. Do you know how many children infected their pathetically ill-willed parents with Omania this year? A LOT. So he will get in there that way somewhat. Even if he doesn't succeed in getting those kids to convert their parents, he's still stolen a significant chunk of the evangelical vote if those kids vote for him instead of McCain. It's still a matter of subtraction and addition.

Same thing with this midwestern focus he talks about. We've yet to see a real strategy develop there, but we will. And he plans to shave off enough of them to defeat McCain in enough states. There are other constituencies too.

But if you add all of this together with the new voter drive (and they really do think they will be wildly successful in this, because of the nature of breaking a barrier), I suspect they think that will be more than enough to cover the purge. They're thinking: add via registrations, but subtract from the other side too. It's actually genius, if Machiavellian, strategy.

I'm a Stantonian Democrat.


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Forgot to add (0.00 / 0)
What he'll try to provoke is McCain Derangement Syndrome as a way inside as well, I suspect. Do you know how many Republicans aren't enthusiastic about McCain this year? A LOT. Guess who most of 'em are? Evangelicals. Evangelicals and a lot of other Republicans used to refer to McCain as a RINO. He'll make inroads into those groups that way, I suspect, shaving off converts as he goes. Recall that these are people already open to conversion experiences.

I'm not saying any of this will succeed, and I may be off on a thing or two, but I am absolutely convinced that this kind of realignment is exactly what he and his team are after. They've said as much. They just haven't shared all the nuts and bolts, so we have to pick them out as they become obvious.

I'm a Stantonian Democrat.


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It's funny because the evangelical thing is a huge turnoff (0.00 / 0)
to me and McCain is seeming more like the "normal" candidate. (If anybody here is evangelical I apologize.) But it was what kept me from liking Reagan too, even though he didn't court them so heavily. So, this is politics I guess, as you court one group another group slips away.

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yes (0.00 / 0)
it has to do with his weakness, the perception that he's not Christian means he has to go overboard to prove he is. But it's also big in the African American community, many African Americans say they're ideologically more pug, only the racism keeps them away from defecting and going pug.  It's a religious demographic. In the same way he may have given a green light to Israel to bomb Iran after the election, because he's viewed as pro-Arab and so has to go way overboard to prove that he's really pro-Isreal. In this way he may have made a pro-war vote behind our backs so he can get elected.  (We'll only find out when and if Israel uses their tactical nukes in Iran and starts off world war forever.

This comes from a lack of planning, getting a candidate who has not prepared for the job or prepared himself to refute easy smears.  It's poor planning, and makes for embracing dumb polities to make him more electable.  

Hillary - alternative energy


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Gay voters (0.00 / 0)
Gays and lesbians are something like 4.2% of all voters. Since we vote at over 90%, that works out to be much higher. More than 80% of all g/l voters go Democratic. Probably a number like one in twelve would express the g/l vote. And then, one in six would express the g/l Democratic vote. One in six, or eight, votes for Democrats comes from a g/l person. Other than what the Clintons did in the 90's, we have nothing to show for our efforts.  

Welcome to my world (0.00 / 0)
I'm a woman, and they haven't done anything for me outside of some Clintonian action either.  

I'm a Stantonian Democrat.

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I really like your analysis! (0.00 / 0)
You say
"But Markos and Jerome argue that these groups should just "get over it" already, and accept the fact that we have to have pro-life Democrats, that we have to have blue dogs, and Bush dogs. They argue that these kinds of Democrats can be disciplined in caucus into voting Democratic, so the only thing that matters if the -D after their name."

and I was transported back to the days in '06 when The Big Cheeto et al. were engaged in a single-minded pursuit of then Democrat Joe Lieberman.  They were not willing to "get over" the fact that he caucused with the Democrats and was strong on their social issues.  At a time when the Dems were 5 seats short of controlling the senate, they spent endless hours on unseating a safe Democratic seat.  And we know how that worked out, don't we?

This party has jumped the shark, to use an overworked phrase.  I'm glad I'm not in it anymore.



kos has backed every losing candidate (0.00 / 0)
just about. Harry Reid explained Joe and said "he votes with us 99% of the time, but there's this one issue which he is very adamant on and that's Iraq."

It made it sound so much more sane, and made Democrats sound like normal people.


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It's like they want one big magic answer (0.00 / 0)
what they don't understand, and even Dean's quote above reveals he's wanting the magic answer, is that Demorats have always been a coalition of groups. Republicans too.

As Will Rogers said "I'm a member of no organized party. I'm a Democrat."


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