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We're not finished folks - not by a long shot!

Silly Season Part 2,118

by: Alegre

Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 22:59:53 PM EDT


I've been running around in a pissed off mood over the past few days and I think I've finally put my finger on the reason.  Like a lot of you, I've been eating, drinking, and breathing information about this campaign for the last year and a half.  I've soaked up every bit of info I can about Hillary's record and what she's proposing in order to undo the damage done by Bush and his merry band of thugs.

One of the reasons I respect and admire Hillary so much is because she knows the details re any issue inside and out.  For her, this campaign is all about helping people.

Yet over the past few weeks our presumptuous nominee (sorry Digby) has been running to the right on these issues, and globe-trotting in some look-at-me-I'm-king-of-the-world tour of countries he should have visited ages ago as the Chair of that Senate Subcommittee on Europe.

And now over the past day or two, it's been all about the race card.  He comments about how he doesn't look like the guys on all our money and when asked about the racial undertones of that, has his press guy spin it away as having nothing to do with race, but more about how he isn't a Washington insider.  Then when McCain pokes fun at his rock star image and includes other pop culture stars in the ad, THIS time it's all about race.  He puts the word out to journalists and his blogger fan-base to accuse McCain of scaring people into thinking BHO's after all the white girls because of that ad.

I'm sorry but can someone please explain to me how this load of crap has anything to do with the issues, or helps a family without healthcare coverage gain access to a hospital if their kid gets hurt or sick?

Make the jump - there's a whole lot more...

Alegre :: Silly Season Part 2,118
Ben Smith and Jonathan Martin touched on the whole race question in their column at Politico earlier today.  Am I the only one who's absolutely disgusted that this shit'?  It's South Carolina all over again folks.

Race issue moves to center of campaign

Given the historic presence of the nation's first major-party African-American presidential nominee, it was likely inevitable.

But now the combustible issue of Barack Obama's racial identity has been thrust squarely into the heated political battle of the 2008 race. Obama Wednesday warned voters that John McCain or his allies would try to "scare" them with his race, and McCain campaign manager Rick Davis responded furiously on Thursday, accusing Obama of playing the race card.

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Obama's aim, in the view of the McCain camp: "to delegitimize any line of attack against him," said McCain aide Steve Schmidt. He said he saw that potential trap being sprung when Obama predicted in Missouri Wednesday that the GOP nominee would attack the Democrat because he "doesn't look like all those other presidents on the dollar bills."

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But Schmidt said McCain had learned the lesson of Clinton's campaign, which began by taking her and her husband's affinity with African-American voters for granted but wound up seeing days and weeks consumed by racially charged gaffes and allegations, ranging from a New Hampshire supporter's suggestion that Obama had dealt drugs to Bill Clinton's own comparison of Obama's campaign to the Rev. Jesse Jackson's.

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McCain aides said they'd been on guard against charges of racism, anticipating the day the issue would arise. Obama made similar comments last month at a fundraiser in Florida. "And did I mention he's black," Obama asked, mockingly imitating what he predicted "Republicans" would say about him.

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"He injected this yesterday," Schmidt said. "We are compelled to respond. Tomorrow, if he does not do it again, we will not talk about it again."

In addition to positioning themselves as having been forced to raise the issue only to knock it down, McCain's campaign is also embracing the victim role in part to ensure that Obama can't seize it.

Specifically requesting that his emphatic point be included, Schmidt said: "We will not be smeared on this subject, period."

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Democrats and Republicans traded accusations about who was trying to inject race into the campaign.

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A Republican strategist said ... that Obama was introducing race to rally his core supporters.

Sigh...

"They started it!".

Points scored.

Motivating the base.

Beating the other guy to the punch.

I've just got one question for those two clowns.

GOT HEALTHCARE YET?

People are hurting right now - and they're in a pissing match over who the bigger jerk is when it comes to playing that feckin' race card.

No wonder millions of us don't bother voting when election day rolls around.

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Ok So I Pulled That Number Out of a Hat (0.00 / 0)
But you know what I mean.

This shit's getting old and I REALLY wish they'd start talking about the issues.

People are literally dying for help out here and they're standing around with a ruler and their pants around their ankles.

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Maybe the rationale for playing (0.00 / 0)

this race card tactic now is to fire up their progressive base again.  Obama has thrown the progressives under the bus on every issue, and some of them are starting to wonder.  (duh, smart progresssives!)  His poll numbers are going down.  This is a desperate attempt to keep his base on board -- even though they're actually under the bus!


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I just want to change my wording. (0.00 / 0)

Instead of "playing the race card tactic now", I should have said "continuing to play..." (dropping "now")  because the Obama campaign, as we all know, has been playing it from the get-go.


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Issues don't matter and never have (0.00 / 0)
Sorry Alegre but that's the way it is and Axelrove knows this better than anyone.  This is a beauty contest, a prom, American Idol Plus.

The policy wonk never had a chance.

Fighting for women at Partizane


At least this is a time of peace, prosperity (0.00 / 0)
so we can afford a neophyte pres right now.

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Look, if and when McCain plays the race card, we'll all call him out. (0.00 / 0)
Premptively announcing he will do something which was done to him in the 2000 primary isn't right.  The Hillary people have seen this movie before:

Heaven's sake, what's this got to do with the economy tanking?

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I Miss Howard (0.00 / 0)
He's one of the good guys and he did right by Hillary and us for as long as the campaign was up and running.  I'm glad to see he landed a good gig over at Fox.

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Both his mother AND his mother-in-law died in January (0.00 / 0)
the NYTimes did a piece a few months back on how all these staffers live their lives, since the primary lasted so much longer than they'd planned. But what a guy, working through that and what a gal, that Hillary.

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My Respect For Him Just Shot Up a Thousand Fold (0.00 / 0)
He never missed a beat while all that was going on.

Ahh jeez - his little girl's a bit younger than my son.  She just lost both grandma's pretty much at the same time.  That must have been so rough on his family.

Shows you how devoted he was / is to his candidate.  Not uncommon among Hillary's team - or her volunteers and supporters.

No sweet children's drink needed either.

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Right on McCain campaign (0.00 / 0)
I'm not advocating Repub but they studied this and did it right. It doesn't hurt they have a daughter of a different race.

Barack is the kind of guy (0.00 / 0)
who has probably been using the race card his entire life.  It's about time someone stands their ground and calls it for what it is.  It's Obama's way of making himself politically "untouchable."  Well, guess what BO---That doesn't work when you're playing the other team.

I've Said For Months It Won't Work on Goopers (0.00 / 0)
They won't care or back down if BHO plays the race card on them.

He's going to get CLOBBERED in the GE.

SUPERS! Help us!

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Its not working on me, either. (0.00 / 0)


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It's classic distraction (0.00 / 0)
These kinds of pissing contests are par for the course whenever these "Racist!" "Am not!" "Am too!" debates get going. The politicians love them, because then they can spend all their time yammering about this garbage instead of actually doing their jobs and serving their constituents. Growing up here in Detroit I was half-convinced the black Detroit mayor and the white suburban leaders were in cahoots with one another on this junk so they didn't actually have to do any real work.

McCain doesn't want to talk about Bush, or the economy, or the GOP base dogma that he doesn't agree with, and Obama doesn't want to talk about anything specific, period, so it's a perfect scenario for them when you get right down to it.

Anybody's who's against Obama for racist reasons made up their mind about not voting for him a long time ago. They don't need alleged dogwhistles to motivate themselves.  


Coleman Young - Feh! (0.00 / 0)
And to think I helped get him elected when he first ran.  Ok so I was a kid but I knocked on doors with my folks back in the 70s for that guy.  Sadly, it didn't turn out so well for the city. :O(

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can't have a rational campaign (0.00 / 0)
some marketing fools have decided the president is the product, and you sell the product.

the product should be the issues, where we stand, what we want accomplished.

Once, however, those fools made such an ignorant choice, they're forced to sell the product they have, Barrack is only who he is, he hasn't done much, hasn't struck with any stands, and what he's promoting is a mish-mash of tired old compromises.

We have been had by pugs and some of our own hapless so-called representatives for plenty of years, we need reforms, and we need them badly.  

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Backlash (0.00 / 0)
Actually, I think playing that race card is going to backfire big time on Obama, if it hasn't already. People are sick to death of it, they no longer believe it, and they feel it is being done unfairly. We got an earful of it when he used it on Hillary. And I would bet she got some votes simply because people hate that kind of tactic. I would bet McCain will get some as well.

And I actually don't see what is going on as simply sniping over the race card. You have to realize that what the media reports and what is actually happening are two different things. I've seen a few of McCain's town hall meetings on C-Span, and he really doesn't talk about Obama a lot. He takes peoples questions and spends a lot of time answering them. That's the opposite of Obama, who doesn't like answering questions at all and is terrible at it.

I doubt the race card would be effective at all if the media didn't love it so much. They are the ones breathlessly reporting it, or making it up out of whole cloth as they did with Hillary. But I think that most Americans over the age of 20 know exactly what a bunch of frat boys the media is at this point in the election. I'm going to smile in November when OZero finds out that being the media darling helped lose the election for him.


It's All About Race (0.00 / 0)
Not hope, not change...race.  It's been about race from day one.  Barack Obama intends to ride white guilt into the White House.

I think it's going to backfire on him, though.  This last one was so blatantly racist that their pathetic attempt to spin it as a reference to his being an "outsider" is just getting them laughed at.

But look for more of this.  It's the only thing they've got and they'll keep playing it, even when it stops working.

How in dog's name did we get in this mess?


"nothing to do with race" (0.00 / 0)

Why was the leadership so keen on making race (and race discrimination) the big issue of this presidential election?  Because nominaing an AA, of course, would push that right to the forefront.

Maybe the leadership thought it might be a good way to take attention away from other issues like, say, health care?  And to top that off their AA candidate from the outset has not favored universal health care for Americans.

But why would the Dems want an excuse to sidestep healthcare and the economy?  Because, bottom line, that's what they have done in this election cycle.  I just don't friggin get it.

Is it they want to lose this election?  Is it they don't feel up to the task of dealing with the economy and health care?


They're Not Interested in Winning (0.00 / 0)
back the WH.  They told Hillary as much during the confernce call before she suspended her campaign.  She told the "he won't win (the GE) you know and they said yeah but he's bringing in new voters and donors and we want his mailing list.

They claim its all about building up the party but we all know the bottom line here is the all-mighty $.

Thing is... when BHO loses in Nov. those new voters and donors will disappear faster than you can say "NOT AGAIN!" and we'll be stuck with another rethug in the WH.

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"those new voters will disappear" (0.00 / 0)

and in the process they have lost a lot of blue collar Dems and the old Party faithful.

So how is it they are building up the party?  What good is the money if they have destroyed the party?


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"Always aim high, work hard, and care deeply about what you believe in. When you stumble, keep faith. When you?re knocked down, get right back up. And NEVER listen to anyone who says you can't or shouldn't go on."
Hillary Clinton - June 7, 2008

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