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Update Re: San. Francisco Event with Hillary (Updated)

by: Alegre

Sun Aug 03, 2008 at 00:26:47 AM EDT


Update was moved from this post into one in it's own right.  This is too important to merge into something else.  See above ok?

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I've gotten a few emails regarding yesterday's post, which included the following video of Hillary saying she thinks the best way to reunify our party is for her name to appear on the roll call ballot in Denver.

Make the jump for one of those emails, and to hear what the writer had to say when we spoke a little while ago...

Alegre :: Update Re: San. Francisco Event with Hillary (Updated)
Here she is --- speaking strictly on the subject of Denver and the ballot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

I was there. I was the last person speaking on this video. This was a fundraiser to pay off her debt. Hillary was Fabulous as always!!! It was billed as an event to help pay off Hillary's debt. There were some Obama people there but not many. There were a variety of Hillary supporters - some voting for McCain, some not voting, and some for Obama. As you can see from the video (thank you Simone!!). Hillary said that she believes that we will all come out stronger if voices are heard. That it is a big part of how we come out unified. She said that delegates can decide to do this on their own and that they can follow the DNC rules.

I had a picture and book that I wanted her to sign. While she was doing that I told her that we are gathering signatures and I hope that she would sign it. She thanked me.

Besides seeing Hillary I met and talked with other HRC delegates that have signed the petition (which was great!) and I also got a few new ones.

We are going to do this!!! PLEASE send your petition in NOW!!!

Now as she said in the above email, this event was billed as a fundraiser to help reduce Hillary's campaign debt, but it pretty much turned into a unity event.  There were about 100 people there and 10 to 15 were from the Obama camp (fair play to them!).  She said the event was hosted by one of Hillary's big fundraisers - someone who's been at it for a couple years and has pulled together close to $1 million.  Still going strong - she heard this latest event pulled in another $100,000.

Now I've heard through the grapevine that some BHO delegates in CO are signing on to this petition.  Why? Because they want to make sure everyone has a say at our convention.  They may not be voting for Hillary, but they believe in real votes with real results and they will not stand in the way of another Democrat's right to have a say in our election process.

To all the delegates out there who might be hesitant to sign on to this petition I'll just say this... you may not want to vote for her but by refusing to sign onto this petition, you're saying you want to deny others the chance to have a voice at OUR party's convention.

Seriously folks - I can't even believe we have to push for something like a ballot with more than one name on it.

Is this America?

Or is this some banana republic run by a dictator who holds an "election" with only his name on the ballot?

Real elections give people a choice.  Real roll call votes include more than one option.  If BHO wants to help bring Hillary's delegates and her 18 million supporters on board the unity train, he's got to take an active role in allowing an open vote - without pre-conditions or scripts - that will allow us some closure.

If they want unity, this is the best way to get there.  Let people have a say - convince us that everything's being done above board (for once), and let us get on board of our own volition.  Don't threaten.  Don't cajole. Guilt trips and scare tactics won't work this time.

We need to have a say at our convention.  We're not sending our delegates there as window dressing dammit - they have a job to do and that's represent us back here at home. If you shut down their voice - OUR voice then you're telling us you don't want our support or our vote in November.

Put Hillary's name on that ballot - hold a vote without preconditions or a script.

Otherwise, you've lost us for good.

Real elections give people a choice of candidates...

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that's pretty clear to me. (0.00 / 0)
I had a picture and book that I wanted her to sign. While she was doing that I told her that we are gathering signatures and I hope that she would sign it. She thanked me.

that's pretty clear to me. if hillary didn't like this initiative, she'd say so. she's doing the opposite.

obama's not perceptive enough to know that a banana republic, undemocratic convention will spell doom in november. half the party will show up and it'll be like they're the DC delegate in the house, or the puerto rico voters during the presidential election - they won't be represented. is that the message he wants to give to half the party- your opinion doesn't count? i think hillary's trying to save him from his own mistake here.  

Barack Obama's election proves that any male can grow up to be president, provided he's willing to use misogyny as a campaign strategy.


She's Been At This A LOT Longer Than He Has (0.00 / 0)
and has probably forgotten more than he'll even know re strategy etc.

Fair play to her.  After the way they've treated her I wouldn't blame her if she just kept to doing her job in the Senate and let BHO and his crowd screw this up on thier own.  But she's not doing that and she won't - her only interest is getting a Dem back into the WH so they can get down to the business of cleaning up Dubby'a messes and helping as many people as possible in the process.

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A convention (0.00 / 0)
without her name on the ballot is unacceptable on every level.  I've been saying all along that I won't vote for McCain, but the Democratic party is on a road to perdition with this nomination process and if they can't see their way clear to at least allowing her delegates the courtesy of voting....well, all bets are off for me.


As I wrote in another blog, (0.00 / 0)
and as Hillary herself said, this is a mechanism for healing and unity.  

Further, how in the name of heavens do you take off the name of the first serious woman contender from the roll call, one who got the most votes in primary history of either party, and one with a huge haul of delegates?

I also wrote, remember that Hillary's most loyal constituency is old enough to remember Jesse Jackson, Teddy Kennedy, Gary Hart, and Jerry Brown, all of them were men by the way.

And to those who say it doesn't matter: why is it that a convention gives a candidate a bounce of a few points in the polls? The democrats have really a golden opportunity.  What is more inspiring that a woman candidate and an African American candidate going toe to toe, and him winning?

I guess DNC has a strong case of CDS, and there doesn't seem to be a cure yet.  


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Or her winning? (0.00 / 0)
That's the problem isn't it?  Logically speaking, there is no winner until those super delegates cast their votes.  Team Obama wants to promote him as super popular choice of the people.  If it comes down to a couple hundred Party insiders...well, sort of goes against narrative.

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that's the problem. (0.00 / 0)
his "win" is a shell game with a bunch of unrepresentative and fraudulent caucuses, a few free delegates from michigan, some "democrat for a day" votes in states with open primaries, and the systematic disenfranchisement of florida and michigan. without those, he's not ahead at all, because hillary won the actual vote.

if there's a vote, it might get ugly. democracy could break out. can't be having that, now can we?

Barack Obama's election proves that any male can grow up to be president, provided he's willing to use misogyny as a campaign strategy.


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"Seriously folks - I can't even believe we have to push for something like a ballot with more than one name on it."  

This was my initial response when I read your breaking news post on the petition. It made me wonder if the Dem/BHO leadership just want to keep us little folks busy with something, all the while they're doing us in.  It can be their excuse to say we got what we wanted, something that in reality should be a given, but at the same time the Florida delegates of non-super status will still be casting only half a vote.



I'm Still Not Voting for Obama... (0.00 / 0)
Whether or not Hillary Clinton's name is placed on the ballot is not going to change my mind about that. It should happen. Her name should be on the ballot; there should be a roll-call vote. If it doesn't happen, it will be a breathtaking act of electoral fraud. But, either way, it won't change my vote, won't make me more likely to cast a vote for Obama. Na ga happen.

This entire dirty, squalid, and ugly episode has completely estranged me from the Democratic Party. I won't ever feel loyalty to the Democratic Party again.  


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