Menu

Make a New Account

Username:

Password:



Forget your username or password?

Search




Advanced Search

Alegre's Corner
We're not finished folks - not by a long shot!

Today's Insightful Comments on MSM

by: Sharyn

Sun Aug 03, 2008 at 13:02:42 PM EDT


(What are the salaries of these bright people?)

from Chuck Todd (NBC's Meet the Press) on the reluctance of Hillary's voters to support Obama:

"This problem is just a creation of upper eastside NYC."

from Tom Daschle (on Fox News Sunday):

Barack Obama "has always been in support of off-shore drilling."

from Donna Brazile (on ABC's This Week):

"To inject race into the campaign is lethal."

        and she then went on to say:

"Except Senator Obama injects race in a healthy way."

Here's an edifying comment from NYT's columnist Bob Herbert:

"White Americans are frankly obsessed with black men sexually involved with white women."

(How much are these people paid?)

I'll just end with an actually intelligent comment from Bob Schieffer on Face the Nation, who closed his show with a quote from Mohandas Gandhi:

"The ends do not justify the means; they reflect the means."

Your thoughts?

 
Sharyn :: Today's Insightful Comments on MSM
Tags: (All Tags)
Print Friendly View Send As Email
Today's Insightful Comments on MSM | 33 comments
poor bob herbert (0.00 / 0)
he thinks old stuff is new stuff.  American are fascinated with sex, he thinks they were perhaps bored with the Monica story?  The sexual lives of the powerful have fascinated for centuries.  But, probably no one cares who he's doing it with.  

Barack has always been in favor of consensus, not off shore drilling. And I'm paid nothing.  

Donna is strange, she's probably worth her salary just on gaffs and pure nuttiness.  

Hillary - alternative energy

you mean white Americans (0.00 / 0)

aren't always thinking about Bob Herbert's stated obsession?  That's not taking over their minds and lives?

If you're right about the offshore drilling, does that mean Mr. Daschle just mis-spoke?!

[ Parent ]
I don't think anyone (0.00 / 0)
cares about Bob's sexual preferences, he's a columnist.  John Edwards is out of the running but he's still of public interest regarding his sexual preferences.  Mr. Daschle isn't a thinking man, and his message is to say that Barack hasn't changed. It's true, but he got what he hadn't changed on wrong. He didn't misspeak, he made a fundamental error, showing he hasn't an idea about who Barack is and what his central (and only) message happens to be. Someone told him it wasn't a change, so he figured....?  These are our leaders. Are you scared yet?  

Hillary - alternative energy
[ Parent ]
I guess guys like (0.00 / 0)

Mr. Daschle think people watching the news shows don't know any of the facts on the ground, so he can just say anything.  Truth just doesn't matter dip anymore.

[ Parent ]
I am sure, (0.00 / 0)
Goerge Orwell is back in some disguise. He'd be crazy not to.  I mean you can't make this up:

Barack Obama "has always been in support of off-shore drilling."

[ Parent ]
bizarre, isn't it! (0.00 / 0)

maybe Daschle wants us to think that Obama was ahead of McCain on this, so he wouldn't appear to be a copy cat?

[ Parent ]
I feel for Bob Herbert. Obama has proved a black candidate CAN (0.00 / 0)
get elected.

But a jerk with a thin record who avoided risk by voting "present" cannot get elected, no matter what race he is.

[ Parent ]
Geraldine Ferarro (0.00 / 0)

is right!!
[ Parent ]
bob is a sweet man (0.00 / 0)
he writes more about women's safety than anyone else, but on Barrack he's lost his mind. He bought the racist crap memo and spread it, and he still thinks that it's about racism, he can't imagine that there are reasons to vote against the man, like not agreeing with him on issues, or not knowing what he'd negotiate away. Barrack needs to win us, that's his job. He grabbed the nom, or better Howard grabbed it for him, and it's up to him to win it. If he loses, it'll be his own fault, although there will be plenty of blame to spread around, like those super's that abdicated their duty to the people who put them in office and voted for the one who donated to their campaigns, and not the one who won their state and district, and not the one who still has the best chance to defeat McCain.

What will Bob say when Barrack asks Hillary to be his running mate?  Will he say he's sorry he called her divisive, and admit that on this one, it was he that was divisive?  

But, he's truly a sweet man, and on this he's just not thinking clearly.  The pugs won't run away from McCain if he's called racist, they'll look blank and wonder what the big deal is all about. Only our own hate racism so much that the hint of being seen as racist pushes them to prove otherwise. It isn't white guilt either, we have a lot of citizens who hate racism and are sick of cops locking up black kids, sick of few services and high crime in neglected impoverished communities, and want everyone to have the same chance, everyone to have medical insurance. We're the good guys.  

Hillary - alternative energy

[ Parent ]
sweet Bob (0.00 / 0)
Not so sure he's so sweet.  He wrote really nasty things about both Hillary and Bill during the primaries. He helped turn me off to BHO big time.  Right after graduating, what did Hillary do?  She went down to work in Alabama to help make sure AAs were able to vote. Anyway, I won't start the list of what the Clintons have done for Civil Rights because it's a long one. How dare the likes of Herbert call them racist.  Marc Rich is another columnist I really detest for the same reasons.
[ Parent ]
Well, since Tom D seems to know (0.00 / 0)
that O has always supported OSD, maybe he can enlighten us as to what else O has always supported that he will be flipping on in the future . . . . ya know, just a little heads up before people vote for him . . .  
yeh, (0.00 / 0)

I wish we had been giving a headsup on BHO's true feelings on FISA, public campaign financing, etc. earlier in the primaries.
[ Parent ]
his true feelings (0.00 / 0)
are that it's all negotiable, and what's most important is that you agree, not what you end up agreeing upon.  He may have his own opinions, but agreement trumps them.

Which is in contrast to his campaign, where he fights over things that to him aren't important as hard issues.  Even his war stance, which was shown to be a fairy tale, is a campaign thing, he'd clearly have voted for it, because he's a consensus guy and the majority voted for it. He just means he wouldn't have started it, if he'd been president. Him and everyone else - that's real consensus, no one is George Bush except George Bush.  

Hillary - alternative energy

[ Parent ]
He just means he wouldn't have started it. (0.00 / 0)

WE know that, but a lot of my progressive friends were deluded to think otherwise.  Did they delude themselves or did BHO just string them along.  After he was elected to the Senate, one of the first things he said was that he and George Bush were on the same page vis a vis Iraq. I would point that out to progressives, but they just preferred to turn a blind eye.

anyway, you could come up with some good illustrations for the above comments!  (leaving out, of course, Bob Herbert's)

[ Parent ]
for sure (0.00 / 0)
that's the big question, was it his multi-racial background that led some to project their own ideals onto him, or was it this desire to blame the girl for Bush and punish her. she took far more hits for her vote in favor of the war resolution, mainly blamed for making a political vote to assure she'd be considered as a candidate who could win the GE, or what she told us all along, that there wasn't sufficient data to disprove Bush's WMB claim and that we needed to force Saddam to cave and let inspectors into his palaces, to avert 'preemptive war.' She's been consistent but many read into her vote what they wished to see. Just as Barack has been consistent on consensus, his not red or blue America speech as all about that, but some read into him what they wanted to see.

Which is why to me it was fundamentally sexist, girls are given the bad motives, while boys are given the lofty ones. it's timeless, go figure.  It's the old cher chez la femme (did I spell that right?)  

Hillary - alternative energy

[ Parent ]
and the resolution (0.00 / 0)

specified that the president would work with the U.N. Security Council, and the president broke his word on that.  When the inspectors did not find the wmds and requested more time, George said nope and invaded.  That's why the senators who voted for the resolution can't be blamed for the war.  Bush himself later tried to shift the blame and started saying those Democrats voted for it too.  Then the stupid left wingnuts joined up with Bush in blaming the Dems.  Rove must have loved that blame shift.
[ Parent ]
some of them were in favor (0.00 / 0)
Edwards liked the preemptive idea and I think Kerry also did. Hillary was very clear about what she wanted, but as a yes voter she was in the minority. And she got the blame. of course, it is sooo typical.  Bush and Rove loved it, they got to kill lots of innocents and break the bank and see other's ruined while they live to bomb again.  Amazing.  

Hillary - alternative energy
[ Parent ]
Hillary gets the blame (0.00 / 0)
for just about everything, but that's going to change.

[ Parent ]
yes (0.00 / 0)
I think so too, she's disproved all the stereotypes, and in that way alone she's been a very positive force, for everyone.  I've never had so little difficulty backing a candidate, she's never let me down. Even when I don't agree with her, she has reasons and they're for some goal that is worthwhile.  

Hillary - alternative energy
[ Parent ]
Those who haven't been scammed before (0.00 / 0)
might be easily deluded. I might write up my experience with the Landmark Forum, which is a mild form of a cult (political campaigns, even Apple users are mild cults, worshipping Steve Jobs.)

The workshop and the maniacal insistence I sign up for subsequent workships led me to read up on cult deprogramming and mind control techniques, patterns of cults, patterns of cult leaders. Here's a good one on the stages of leaving a cult
- "Feels loss of sense of being elite"
- "Lacks satisfaction with the world & self; feels emptiness at no longer being a world saver"
- "Is embarrassed & uncertain how or when to tell others about cult experience; fears rejection."

[ Parent ]
gee, all (0.00 / 0)

the kool-aid drinkers will have to go into group therapy together.  or just stay in denial.
[ Parent ]
As long as they stay together (0.00 / 0)
they will stay in denial.
[ Parent ]
Is individual therapy (0.00 / 0)

what's needed rather than group therapy?


[ Parent ]
They just need contact with the outside world. (0.00 / 0)
It's not a serious cult, well maybe the ones who uprooted their lives and moved to Chicago are brainwashed. We'll see.
[ Parent ]
re: Chuck Todd's comment (0.00 / 0)

I just learned from another comment (thanks, ohioana) that names are being collected to alert Todd that we are, in fact, not a creation of upper eastside Manhatten.  Go here to add your name and give your location:

http://riverdaughter.wordpress...  

277 people have added their names already!   I wonder how many are from upper eastside?!

We are all over, and the females among us are done ironing the Dem Party shirts!

 

Thanks for the link (0.00 / 0)
Done!  Comments are up to 540 now.
[ Parent ]
great! (0.00 / 0)

Hope Todd mentions this on MSNBC.  (I won't hold my breath tho)
[ Parent ]
and (0.00 / 0)
it's a hoot to read through the comments of those calling Chuck to task.  When I checked a little while ago, the last one made said:

Chuck Todd, do your homework before spouting off!

That was number 589.  Hope Mr. Todd will have time to read all the comments.

[ Parent ]
re: Brazile's comment: (0.00 / 0)

"To inject race into the campaign is lethal."

Let me get this straight:  Brazile, and others in the backroom Dem leadership, pushed an AA through to become the Party's presumptive nominee because injecting race into the campaign would be lethal. (!)

Guess that's why she had to go on to say that only Obama injects race in a healthy way!

Sharyn please keep this up... (0.00 / 0)
I can't stomach the MSM anymore so these little tidbits are much appreciated.

Medicare for All is Civil Rights
MSM (0.00 / 0)

Some of the remarks made by the media experts are so laughable it's pitiful!  I'll jot them down and pass them on when I come across them.
[ Parent ]
These people (0.00 / 0)
are truly deranged. Thanks for posting the snips. I cannot watch or read their lies anymore.  

Alice left me in Wonderland.  
Today's Insightful Comments on MSM | 33 comments
"Always aim high, work hard, and care deeply about what you believe in. When you stumble, keep faith. When you?re knocked down, get right back up. And NEVER listen to anyone who says you can't or shouldn't go on."
Hillary Clinton - June 7, 2008

Hillary Clinton
- Put stuff here

Blog Roll
- Put stuff here

Powered by: SoapBlox