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Brett Favre -- and the DNC

by: LSekhmet

Sun Aug 03, 2008 at 22:30:49 PM EDT


Brett Favre landed in Green Bay, WI, today and all indications are that he will resume his career with the Green Bay Packers starting Monday afternoon.

"But what does Brett Favre have to do with the DNC?" you all must be asking.

Well, he doesn't have much to do with it, but his situation does -- Favre retired in March, but wanted to come back in April or May, and irresponsible bigwigs in the Green Bay Packers front office stood in his way for the past month and a half (if not longer; that's when the story came to light).  When this came to light, the bigwigs in Green Bay protested that they were doing all this (going with the younger Aaron Rodgers, who isn't proven) "for the good of the team" and insisted that they had the best interests of the Green Bay Packers and their fans at heart -- and that we just had to trust them that Brett Favre, the icon, the legend, the Iron Man of professional football, really wasn't the man for the job.

Does this sound familiar to anyone?

I believe this situation that Favre and the Packer front office is analogous to the situation Hillary Clinton now finds herself in -- and all her supporters, too, truth be told -- in where the better, much more qualified, and older person is shunted aside for the younger, much less experienced, unproven one, and in both cases are told "it's for the good of the team" (or in the case of Clinton, "it's for the best interests of the Democratic Party and the United States of America").

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LSekhmet :: Brett Favre -- and the DNC
We Hillary Clinton supporters have seen our candidate mocked in the media, and we've seen a younger, much less experienced and unproven candidate exalted instead.  We Hillary Clinton supporters have been told all sorts of things in the media -- but we know better, just as the Packers fans know better.

I have nothing against Aaron Rodgers -- nor against Barack Obama, truth be told.  I just feel they're both not ready for their respective "gigs" -- they're too young, not experienced enough, don't have the tools of the wilier and more experienced Favre or Clinton -- and that it's blindingly obvious who needs to lead the Green Bay Packers (or the nation's Democrats) into the next "season."

Granted, the Green Bay Packers front office came up with a very sour-sounding statement here:

http://www.packers.com/news/re...

The relevant quotes:

Sixteen years after Brett Favre came to the Packers, he is returning for a seventeenth season. He has had a great career with our organization and although we built this year around the assumption that Brett meant what he said about retiring, Brett is coming back. We will welcome him back and turn this situation to our advantage.

Frankly, Brett's change of mind put us in a very difficult spot. We now will revise many actions and assumptions about our long-term future, all predicated on Brett's decision last March to retire. As a result of his decision, we invested considerably in a new and different future without Brett and we were obviously moving in that direction. That's why this wasn't easy.

Now, there's been no one more adamant than the Packers over the past few months that Aaron Rodgers would be the starter (even after Favre, the Iron Man of professional football with a consecutive games started streak, with 4155 yards passing last year and a quarterback rating of 95.7 last year, indicated he wanted to come back -- mind you, he was also the runner up in the Most Valuable Player voting despite his age of 38), yet they've now had to back off as you see above -- at least in part.

No one knows what will happen now, but one thing is clear -- the national media spotlight remains on Green Bay.  Other teams have called the Packers-Favre situation a "zoo" and think it's utterly ridiculous -- even those teams and players who think Favre is at fault for anything in this mess believe he deserves the chance to come back, play, and compete for the starting job.

I believe this reversal by the Green Bay Packers front office shows that public pressure can make a difference; there were several websites that sprung up in order to help fans organize their outrage, including SaveBrett.net and BringBackBrettFavre.com, just as we have more than several websites that have sprung up in order to help us organize our outrage over the DNC's atrocious decisions.

We can and must make a difference, folks; sometimes, City Hall can be fought and we can beat them.  Granted, it's harder for us because mainstream media attention isn't on what we're doing, and we don't have anyone holding the DNC's feet to the fire but us -- but I believe we firmly can and must make a difference.  We must turn around this horrifically bad outcome; Hillary Clinton's name must be put into nomination (I applaud the efforts of the delegates trying to get 300 people to sign the petition in order for Senator Clinton's name to be eligible to be placed in nomination), and we must have a free, fair and open convention -- unscripted, no coronation of Barack Obama -- and the DNC must be willing to backpedal, just as the Green Bay front office has done today.

Finally, I implore any delegate or superdelegate who reads this -- we, the Hillary Clinton voters, need you to understand that unity cannot and must not be achieved unless Hillary Clinton's name is put into nomination and she gets her shot to make her case to the delegates and the superdelegates one final time.  If this is done, unity might be possible -- if it isn't, then woe betide the DNC.

Woe betide them indeed!

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I know, it's an odd subject. (0.00 / 0)
But I believe it's relevant.  Give it a try.  You might even like my parallels.

All I know is, Hillary Clinton needs our help.  And the help Brett Favre got from fans -- something he didn't ask for and couldn't -- must have helped the Packers finally give in.  (Roger Goodell, the commissioner of the NFL, also was holding the collective front office of the Packers' feet to the fire.  That, too, was extremely useful.  Unfortunately Howard Dean of the DNC will not take our side in this, because he's an idiot and apparently isn't even aware of how his bottom line will be affected, whereas Goodell was aware right off the bat.)

We must keep fighting for Hillary Clinton, because sometimes, the good people do win.

Hillary Clinton -- NOW!

There's no excuse for this, DNC.  None.


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I especially like your parallel to supporters keeping the pressure on.  Do you think it's getting through to Howard Dean?


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I sincerely hope so, Sharyn. (0.00 / 0)
I think Dean's ignorant comments make it very likely that he does know, he does feel the pressure, but can't admit it.

Whether that will eventually lead toward a backpedaling and a realization of reality, I don't know.

Know also that the Packers could still screw this up; they apparently want to trade Favre to another NFC Division rival just to get rid of him.  And if they do that, my parallels only go so far -- or maybe go the other way, back toward what the DNC has actually done here with regards to Senator Clinton.

However, this is definitely a question of who is the most qualified, the most competent, and the older person getting the shaft.  Other teams have had people come out of retirement before -- the NY Giants being among them with Michael Strahan -- and they've never behaved toward the formerly-retired person like this.  Granted, the formerly-retired person may not have won a job -- but they weren't treated like this, either.

For a future Hall of Famer to be treated this badly sent shockwaves around the league, and told every single NFL player that players weren't really valued in Green Bay -- not unless your name is Aaron Rodgers, that is.  (Why the irresponsible bigwigs in the Packers front office feel Rodgers is owed anything, I just don't know.  I have nothing against Rodgers, but he's paid a lot of money whether he plays or doesn't.  Why should I feel sorry for him when he's as yet done nothing in the NFL to warrant this kind of kid-gloves treatment?)

I also believe that Hillary Clinton, a truly great human being and politician, to be treated this badly by her own party sent shockwaves around the Democratic Party as a whole and around the nation as well.  And there's no excuse for this -- none -- that would explain this, just as there's no excuse the Packers front office could ever give to explain their bad treatment of Favre.

I also am disgusted by the way the media in Wisconsin continues to beat up on Brett Favre, when they were fawning in adoration before.  The media can truly turn on a dime, and they have in this case -- they've been vicious toward Favre at many papers, and for very little reason as far as I can tell.  (Doesn't this sound familiar, too?)

All I know is, Favre can "run on his record," just as can Hillary Clinton -- even though Favre himself is a staunch Republican and would hate the comparison, I still feel it is accurate.  

Why is it that strong people or candidates are torn down by the media, while far weaker ones who haven't done anything are exalted?

There's no excuse for this, DNC.  None.


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You can include me! (0.00 / 0)

I'm sympathetic with Hillary and Brett Favre.  I just turned 60 myself, and am for the first time in my life starting to see ageism.  I've been doing real estate for the past six years, but (as everyone knows) r.e. has been a slow market so I've been substitute teaching to keep the bills paid.  At the same time I've been looking for a job with a regular paycheck, but even with a graduate degree, I've been unable to get full, permanent employment.  Because of the economy, the positions I apply for are swamped with applicants.  Even when I make it to the final few, they end up choosing the younger person!  Even though nothing is ever said, I really think it's the age thing. (and I'm not exactly ancient!) I have never in my whole life had trouble finding work, so this is quite a shocker.



I'm sorry you've faced that, Sharyn. (0.00 / 0)
Why is it that we supposedly have a "sell-by date" in this country, and after a certain age (or if we have obvious physical disabilities) we don't count or are suddenly invisible?

I don't approve of that, and never will.

At any rate, I agree with you -- we're talking about ageism here in both cases, and I absolutely refuse to condone it -- not in Favre's case, not in Senator Clinton's case, never.  Especially when a by-far inferior person ends up "winning" -- when in reality, they've done no such thing!

There's no excuse for this, DNC.  None.


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I agree LSekhmet. (0.00 / 0)
Although these two subjects are not on the surface related, parallels can be drawn.  Obama's inexperience is shameful in my opinion -- and I don't believe this country can survive yet another shameful president at home, or abroad.

Aaron Rodgers a better QB than Favre?  B*tch, please!!!
The Packers' treatment of Favre has also been abominable --much like the DNC's treatment of Hillary.

I vote that the Packers' management team and Howard Dean (and other members of the DNC) be sacked in favor of reasonable human beings with rational thought processes.  Wouldn't it be a breath of fresh air if these people actually behaved rationally?

HILLARY 4EVER


Yes, it would. And I agree with you! :-) (0.00 / 0)
Thanks for understanding my parallels, Testing123.  There's no excuse for this level of bad treatment to a competent, well-qualified, almost legendary person -- Favre for his competence on the field, Hillary Clinton for her competence in issues and understanding the tough times we're in -- and having solutions for them.

I am in full agreement with you -- we need rational people making these decisions, not the ones who are making them now.  In the Packers case, Bob Harlan, who just stepped down as Packers CEO early this year, wouldn't have behaved this way -- and any GM besides Ted Thompson would never have behaved this way.  And in the DNC's case -- well, if we had any DNC chairman other than Howard Dean, d'you all think we'd be in this mess with Obama?

I agree that Obama's inexperience is shameful -- as that British commentator said a while back, Obama is the least-qualified person to ever run for President as far as he could tell -- and we cannot survive yet another really bad President who isn't qualified, isn't experienced, and as I've said before, doesn't know what he doesn't know -- thus making bad decisions out of complete and utter ignorance.

I don't know what we're supposed to do other than continue to agitate -- peacefully, of course -- and politely, too, as impoliteness will get us nowhere.  But this is wrong, it's always been wrong, and it must be fought.

I'm very glad that Brett Favre's situation is appreciated and understood by the commissioner of the NFL, Roger Goodell -- that gives me hope that the Packers front office will have their feet held to the fire and that the fans will not get shafted -- regardless of what the media says about "Wisconsin is in civil war over the Favre situation," at least 90% of the fans here want to see Favre playing, not Rodgers, because Rodgers hasn't done anything yet and seems very inconsistent as well as fragile (the last three years, he plays one game and gets hurt and is out the rest of the year; yes, he played one game on a broken leg when there was no one else and that was tough, but then he was out the whole rest of the year, while Favre's played with a busted thumb, badly swollen ankles and knees, etc. and has the Iron Man streak of most consecutive games played by a QB so he's not exactly a pansy himself).

Now, we need someone to be able to hold Howard Dean accountable -- because if he isn't held accountable, there will be Hell to pay -- or at least, PUMAs to deal with, forever.

There's no excuse for this, DNC.  None.


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Hillary Clinton - June 7, 2008

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