Obama to Women: "Get Over it"

How typical, and sad. (4.00 / 7)

Why am I unsurprised by Barack Obama once again showing that he has the political IQ of a pet rock?

Thanks for bringing this up; we need to keep this on the front burner.  This sort of dismissive, arrogant behavior needs to be called out and told off for what it is -- insulting, rude, and obnoxious.  Also presumptuous.

There's no excuse for this, DNC.  None.

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by: LSekhmet @ Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 23:33:11 PM CDT

LOL, "pet rock"... (4.00 / 4)

I was just so offended when I read it. At least there are women  in Congress who aren't gonna let him get away with that crap.  

"There are no acceptable limits, and there are no acceptable prejudices in the 21st century." ~ HRC

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by: iam0nly1 @ Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 00:07:06 AM CDT

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It must be true. (4.00 / 4)

He thinks women will vote for him against McCain. He doesn't know how many women honor McCain's service, or his record with women's rights. He'll be in for a rude surprise in November. A lot of us Clinton supporters will be voting, all right, but not for Obama.

rise, hillary, rise!!!

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by: leo @ Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 23:39:52 PM CDT

He's too arrogant... (4.00 / 4)

to realize we aren't going to fall in line.  

"There are no acceptable limits, and there are no acceptable prejudices in the 21st century." ~ HRC

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by: iam0nly1 @ Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 00:08:00 AM CDT

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I'm come to seriously despise Obama (4.00 / 5)

and I won't vote for him.  OTOH, I'm not voting for McCain.  I have no idea what you're referring to when you site his record on "women's rights".  He's anti-choice and has voted against equal pay and children's health.  If allowed, I'll write-in Hillary or if not, I'll just skip the presidential slot.

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by: Antigone @ Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 01:05:21 AM CDT

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I had a talk with a neighbor (4.00 / 3)

who insisted McCain would stand up for women's rights more than Obama if elected. I didn't believe her, but I wanted to. I really did. Because if I write in or stay home, it feels like I'll just be giving a passive vote to McCain. And I don't want that. Which is why I want to either find something to make me vote For Obama or For McCain in November, instead of trying to avoid both of them.

rise, hillary, rise!!!

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by: leo @ Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 01:24:54 AM CDT

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What about Cynthia McKinney? (4.00 / 3)

She's running, she's a female, and she's black. She's also a firecracker. I don't know much about her, but I'm gonna take a look.

However, I do not agree that not voting at all is a passive vote for McCain. The only vote there is is the one you cast in the booth, and no one can assign a vote not submitted to anyone else. I think we have to stop thinking like that. It's a very woman-centric way of thinking, because it accounts for the impact on others, which political males almost never do. They selfishly vote their own interests, or for the best show on the road, but they do not consider how women and children, or even other males, will be impacted. I'm not saying we have to be like that, but we need to realize that we have done and still do most of the work in this country, and it's time we stood up for ourselves, even if that means taking action we aren't exactly comfortable with.  

I'm a Stantonian Democrat.

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by: Anna Belle @ Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 08:59:21 AM CDT

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That's been on my mind too (4.00 / 1)

While I doubt if a third party can win, I think it is may be a better protest vote than voting for Senator McCain.

Plus I like voting with my conscience and in protest which I could achieve that way.

Still time to decide though.

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by: mwb @ Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 16:01:13 PM CDT

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I'm not sure where... (4.00 / 5)

in the post I cited McCain's record on "Women's Rights."  However, I will state that Obama's record is nearly non-existent, except for a few present votes on choice.

I will say that I'm not in the least concerned about Roe, seeing as McCain voted for Ginsberg and Breyer, and that the Court already has the votes necessary to overturn Roe, and hasn't.

I think the Parties use things that Roe and Gay Marriage to blackmail us into voting for them, when nothing will come of it in the end. They simply use us to gain power, and then ignore us until the next election.

If only we still had Hillary. I'm holding out hope for Denver.  

"There are no acceptable limits, and there are no acceptable prejudices in the 21st century." ~ HRC

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by: iam0nly1 @ Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 03:05:04 AM CDT

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I think if McCain gets in, he'll re-appoint Sandra Day-O'Connor. (0.00 / 0)

And I, for one, can live with that.

There's no excuse for this, DNC.  None.

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by: LSekhmet @ Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 22:51:13 PM CDT

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That's About Where I'm At Right Now (4.00 / 6)

No way in hell I'll vote for McCain - he's anti-choice and the supreme court is just too damn important right now.  And anyone who preaches to me about how we can't be held hostage by the issues doesn't know me - hasn't a clue as to the number of clinic defenses I've been to or the hours I logged in as a volunteer for pro-choice groups (one of which will now remain nameless - forever in my book).

Choice is too important - for me and for my little girl.  McCain would be a disaster for all of us, and for any man who cares about a woman or girl.

As for Obama - he'll have to work is skinny tight little ass off to win me over.  BS like this and that appointment of Solis Doyle just confirms what I've known for months now - he couldn't care less about us.

So I'll probably skip voting in the presidential race and turn out for down-ticket Dems.

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by: Alegre @ Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 10:03:12 AM CDT

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And, of course it's not apparent (4.00 / 2)

Obama would be any better on SC picks.  My instincts tell me McCain would nominate the Kennedy/O'Conner type.

And Obama?

http://www.talkleft.com/story/...

Medicare for All is Civil Rights

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by: masslib @ Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 10:14:43 AM CDT

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Nice catch on that link (4.00 / 1)

masslib. Thanks.  

I'm a Stantonian Democrat.

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by: Anna Belle @ Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 10:42:55 AM CDT

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About SCOTUS... (4.00 / 1)

I think it's important for us to remember that the SCOTUS already has enough votes to overturn Roe. It is not on their to-do list and won't be. The Roe battle will be fought in the states, so down ticket dems and state judges are really the most important. The GOP knows that if Roe ever got overturned, they would ensure a Liberal majority for decades.

RD over at Confluence had a bit of a series on "The Roe Ruse." I think it's important for all of us to read. The Parties have set up the system this way so that we feel shackled to the Party.

Senate Dems are the ones who should be fighting radical SCOTUS nominees. I will not be blamed, nor will I feel responsible for the shortcomings of ineffectual Democrats.  

"There are no acceptable limits, and there are no acceptable prejudices in the 21st century." ~ HRC

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by: iam0nly1 @ Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 17:48:34 PM CDT

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His Every Word and Action Tells Us (4.00 / 7)

he's not the least bit interested in winning us over, OR earning our vote.  He really doesn't get it - does he?

Invest in Women - Change the World
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by: Alegre @ Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 00:03:58 AM CDT

Not in the least bit. (4.00 / 3)

But, then again, he's never gotten it. Why would he start now? Especially since he thinks he doesn't need our votes.  

"There are no acceptable limits, and there are no acceptable prejudices in the 21st century." ~ HRC

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by: iam0nly1 @ Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 00:08:58 AM CDT

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No he doesn't (3.86 / 7)

Read his book The Audacity of Hope. Here's what's going down: he thinks primaries are the realm of special interests groups, aka, activists. He sees the group of women who are very angry right now as part of that activist fringe. And he discounts them, because he's trying to reach ordinary Americans, those people who don't pay attention to much but soundbites and the paid-for newscycle on TV. He's banking on getting out the great apathetic masses, as well as swapping constituencies with Republicans. He's basically playing base ball card trading with the base.

He must be defeated. Ego-frickin'-maniac is what he is.  

I'm a Stantonian Democrat.

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by: Anna Belle @ Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 09:04:16 AM CDT

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Well, two can play at that game.. (4.00 / 1)

we won't "get over it", and he will lose our votes. Let's see him "get over" that. I doubt he can. Of course, if he loses the GE, it will be Hillary's fault for not strong-arming her supporters into voting for him like he is doing to the SDs. He really doesn't have a clue, not even a glimmer of a clue. It's really disappointing that this is the best candidate that the DNC can come up with. If they had left it to us, the voters, we would have nominated Hillary and she would be hammering away at McCain right now. I hope the DNC can "get over it" when they lose in November.

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by: FlaDemFem @ Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 16:41:36 PM CDT

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The only thing BHO (4.00 / 5)

has managed to get done is running for office.  Oh, and I forgot he voted "present" on key issues.    

I agree with you.  Why would I vote for someone who is already "too busy" for my concerns?  This is just the campaign, what happens when he actually needs to get critical things done like repairing the Bush economy, ending the war in Iraq, and overhauling the health care system?

I'd rather work to support a candidate who will be effective, actually wants to work hard, and has a 35 year record of getting things done to improve this country. As a woman voter, I'll opt for Hillary '08 instead.

FYI Obama, telling me to just "get over it" is not a very good way to build party unity.  I think I'll pass on unity, I'm "too busy" supporting a better candidate.

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by: Lt. Ripley @ Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 00:15:04 AM CDT

THAT bothers me more than (4.00 / 4)

the "get over it" nonsense.  He just can not stop smearing Hillary.  Unbelievable.

Medicare for All is Civil Rights

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by: masslib @ Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 08:30:14 AM CDT

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This same article (4.00 / 6)

mentions that Obama complained that Hillary insinuated he was a Muslim.

He has no class. What a freakin' liar.

I'll tell you what, though, the schadenfreude was mighty tasty today, watching the Cheeto-sphere explode in outrage and garment-rending over Obama's utterly predictable sell-out on FISA. But then I remember that's the Constitution that just went under the bus and the taste is pretty bitter...

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by: Politica @ Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 00:45:30 AM CDT

It's certainly bitter sweet... (4.00 / 4)

although they should have known better. It boggles my mind that people are buying into this facade.

I have a post on it over at DONEdems.com (my main site).

http://donedems.com/2008/06/20...

And I added a nice little "Disunity Update" on him accusing her of suggesting he was a Muslim. I get a little riled up, and didn't know if I should add the update here, but the link at the bottom of the post will take you to the updated version.  

"There are no acceptable limits, and there are no acceptable prejudices in the 21st century." ~ HRC

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by: iam0nly1 @ Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 03:09:24 AM CDT

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This is after his own campaign (4.00 / 3)

made sure that no muslim women were seen near him at a campaign event.  Which is worse, what he is accusing Hillary of or what he did on his own?  He has a lot of nerve, and stupidity, considering, to even bring it up.

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by: Hopscotch @ Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 09:43:36 AM CDT

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I'm Beginning To Despise This Man n/t (4.00 / 3)

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by: creeper @ Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 00:46:26 AM CDT

Beginning? (4.00 / 5)

I hit "despise" some time between "You're likable enough" and "sweetie." No, strike that. I didn't despise him after "likable enough," but that was when I started to dislike him. Despise came with the Jay-Z thing.  

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by: Politica @ Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 00:52:48 AM CDT

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He has a long way to go (4.00 / 2)

before I think that well of him. He has a lot of work to do to get up to "despise" as far as I am concerned.  

Live your life in such a way that when your feet
hit the floor in the morning, Satan shudders & says
'Oh $#!%'...she's awake!!

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by: FlaDemFem @ Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 11:25:59 AM CDT

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well, this tells me what i need to know. (4.00 / 8)

the arrogance, condescension, and feelings of entitlement in the obama campaign come from the top. to tell women in the Congressional Black Caucus to "get over it" is the height of... something.  

these women HAVE "gotten over" a lot of things (like the pervasive sexism in our society), and were elected to congress in spite of these and other obstacles, senator. that doesn't mean they are OK with sexism. i doubt if they're too fond of people using the sexism in our society for political advantage, either.   sweetie.

they supported hillary for substantive policy reasons, and, rather than addressing those reasons (like why your health care proposal leaves 15 million people uninsured), you tell them to "get over it". that's not going to have the desired effect, i'm afraid.

Barack Obama's election proves that any male can grow up to be president, provided he's willing to use misogyny as a campaign strategy.

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by: campskunk @ Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 01:30:45 AM CDT

So true... (4.00 / 5)

What's more is that most of these women have been in Congress longer than he has and he still has the nerve to talk down to them in this way.  

"There are no acceptable limits, and there are no acceptable prejudices in the 21st century." ~ HRC

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by: iam0nly1 @ Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 03:12:31 AM CDT

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I agree (4.00 / 4)

He's spending his political capital faster than his campaign dollars.  He needs to check that ego and show some respect to those folks who have actually worked hard and made the changes in America he only gives speeches about.  How long has he been in politics?  15 sec?

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by: Lt. Ripley @ Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 11:40:53 AM CDT

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Here's what he's really saying (4.00 / 7)

I so love to translate. :D

"However, I need to make a decision in the next few months as to how I manage these women since I'm running against John McCain, which takes a lot of time. If women take a moment to realize that on every issue important to women, they have leverage this year (finally) that they shouldn't use because it won't help me, they would just get over it."

I'm a Stantonian Democrat.

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by: Anna Belle @ Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 08:50:54 AM CDT

Talking about "women's issues" is (4.00 / 8)

so beneath him and frivolous.  That's why he started out with Oprah.  Oprah was supposed to take care of getting  women's votes.  Unfortunately for Oprah, there are a lot of women who saw his scam and her ratings have gone down since she campaigned with him.  Notice, she has stopped cold. There are many, many of us who know his type, but still some who are clueless or happy to serve him.

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by: Hopscotch @ Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 09:37:17 AM CDT

low information (4.00 / 10)

voters are never going to hear or see the things we know. They watch the news at night and read the local paper.
The whole new 'seal' thing is scaring me a lot- it is a psychological trick designed to associate him in the minds of the voters as the president. It looks just enough like the real seal of the POTUS to cause that association in the subconscious. (Self fulfilling prophecy kind of thing too?)
I doubt the MSM will make enough noise about it and for the next five months every time he is seen on TV voters will get a subtle message telling them he IS the president.
Whoever thought this up is one dangerous, dangerous, but very smart cookie.
He is going to continue to dismiss and marginalize any who don't support him. Women get over it? NOT happening. Has he never heard the expression "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned?"
So, it is still up to US to get the word out!

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by: ProudMilitaryMom @ Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 09:42:39 AM CDT

Get Over it? (4.00 / 4)

No way - BHO is so arrogant and crass - his whole campaign is Orwelian.  He's dismissive about women, afraid of the GLBT community, and more.  What I know of BHO is what he is against.  I know little he is for.  And that change business is non-sense.  BHO is the most threatening thing to our Democracy - he's EVIL.  Go to http://www.iownmyvote.com Sign the Pledge - there is strength in numbers.

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by: fdrjim @ Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 11:50:28 AM CDT

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