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We're not finished folks - not by a long shot!

By Hook or by Crook

by: anna shane

Tue Aug 05, 2008 at 15:32:59 PM EDT


Dear Team Obama,

If you hold on to the nomination, I'd like you to win it. And, your strategy isn't working.

There were problems from the first, because to be the agent for change you ran on being, you needed a lot of personal support, and you've never had enough of that.  I was skeptical of your plan, to not run with a particular platform of what you specifically wanted to accomplish, but to run as someone who would bring everyone together, and together we'd all come up with a 'common' platform that left no group feeling isolated and disrespected.  It sounded kind of sweet, but it's something that requires voters to trust the person of the president, not the platform of the president.  Since of course the final decisions would still be the president's, it's never really truly a consensus.  But, I was more than willing to let you try, provided you could actually win the nomination, fair and square with people knowing what you were going to do.  

anna shane :: By Hook or by Crook
Instead you ran a negative campaign, thinly disguised as defending yourself from scurrilous 'attacks.'  You likely assumed that you would be attacked and in defending yourself you'd be able to show the difference, that you're for unity and against scurrilous attacks.  The problem was that your main rival Hillary Clinton didn't attack you. So, you 'had to' take the 'truth' to be an attack and 'attacked her back' for noting, for example, that you have little experience. Since you do have little experience, that was weird.  You also made stuff up, and manufactured outrage, for example assuming she would go negative cause Bob Novak said so and then attacking her 'negativity.'  

But this was a consequence of the main problem, which was that only some voters wanted your version of change, far more wanted to know what a president will do in office.  You then had to come up with some plans, but since your whole point is to have plans open ended enough that the final version can't be written until everyone has their say and it's a 'unity' decision, you were stuck having to come up with plans that you didn't really plan to adopt.  Then you showed up badly in debates because you hadn't really thought about those things, you were planning to think about specifics after you got elected, but you couldn't say that, it probably sounded strange even to you.

In the Texas debate you simply repeated the immigration reform bill that didn't pass, either because that compromise bill was just what you'd wanted, although most Democrats thought it was needlessly cruel and punitive, or because you hadn't thought about the bill you'd think would be best and that was a default answer.  

Then some of your advisors admitted that what you'd claimed you'd do or be for in debates and town hall meetings wasn't yet written in cement, and then where were you?  You may as well have never presented any plans to start with.  

Your campaign has been busy selling you as a unique product, with all the trappings of uniqueness, the presidential seal, the stadiums filled with cheering throngs, but this one you didn't think through. Americans are put off by show-offs, and skeptical of personalities, and you were seen as arrogant, as someone who was marketing himself as a unique fellow who would get his consensus by hook or by crook.    

One unfortunate decision was the idea that you talk about yourself with the royal 'we.' We're going to do this or that, left you open to some serious mockery when you said we're the one's we're waiting for. Had you referred to yourself as 'I'," then when you said 'we' one might have taken it to mean all of us, together, but no, it sounds like you're still talking about yourself with the royal 'we.'  And maybe you are, who can tell?

Also, you don't update your strategy. Maybe you got this from Bush and Rove, don't ever change, but to reach a goal you have to look at the goal and judge if you're getting closer or further away. You've been losing momentum since February, it's time to rethink the strategy.

It's too late to change your philosophy and anyway if you became a solutions candidate (or even a weird old maverick) you would hardly be anyone's first choice, since you have no history of solutions.  

So, here's my idea for you:

Run from your theory, not your personality. You want to present yourself as the only one that can bring unity and who will require compromise and consensus, but that's silly and so far you haven't shown any particular talent for it.

But your theory is 'consensus, respect and empathy,' so talk about that, not about yourself. You can give those details, how you'll allow access to everyone so they can give you their ideas, for example.  How the ideas will be counted and sorted.  There must be some specifics there, it's a big country with lots of people and diverse groups, how will they all get your ear?  

You can demonstrate that is isn't about you as a unique person (no one's that unique) but about your governing philosophy by teaming up with Hillary and proving it. She won the other half of the votes, and that's an obvious place for unity, compromise and consensus to be demonstrated, or avoided.  

The main message to your team is, stop puffing up Barack, he's looking weird, he's going to be a joke shared by all but you guys and not in the distant future either.  And the only thing funnier to those who will be laughing at you, is you getting pissy about being laughed at, so prepare with some counter jokes that show you're not too proud to get the joke.

Look, it didn't work, you need to shift now, because if you keep the nomination you will be expected to win it.  You can try to blame your loss on those who don't believe in hope, or on Hilary for not dropping out as soon as she realized there was a real hope candidate, or on girls for being pissed at Howard for foisting you upon us, but it'll be all your own fault. Still, you haven't lost yet, so, get busy.

Sincerely,

a concerned voter

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By Hook or by Crook | 24 comments
allowing access to everyone (0.00 / 0)

Don't you think it would be a good idea for him to join McCain for joint town hall forums?  That would be democracy in action.  It's what the electorate wants, and would get good media attention.  Issues would be raised directly by the people. And the people could compare and contrast the candidates's responses. He says he's for a new approach, but his actions say otherwise.  He just wants to do several of the MSM type debates in the same old way.  I wish Obama would show some guts.  Doesn't he think he can handle that old geezer McCain at a town forum?



he needs a big shift (0.00 / 0)
yes, he said loud and clear when Hillary was asking for more debates that he couldn't wait to debate McCain. he lost more on that refusal than he did when he decided against public funding. He looks like a coward, and I suppose what he's really showing is that he isn't ready, that's bad enough.  

Hillary - alternative energy

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Good post, Anna. (0.00 / 0)
And an excellent answer here.  Obama lost a lot of face, and a lot of respect, when he refused to do the town hall meetings -- and now, waffling on the amount of debates also isn't helping him.

IMO, Obama should step down; he's not ready for this gig.  Really and truly, he's not ready.

And the DNC should be ashamed to have foisted Obama on us (the ones who did this; I don't blame the good ones like Flournoy, Ickes and Pasquil, but I do blame Donna Brazile and Howard Dean!).

There's no excuse for this, DNC.  None.


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He should step down ... (0.00 / 0)
Hear, hear!!

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He's taking a vacation with less than 100 days (0.00 / 0)
until the election. Maybe he's trying to tell us something - he's in over his head.

(Though I think this is why he worked out three times per day - he hopes he'll be photographed in the Maui surf. Gag.)


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He's going to Hawaii (0.00 / 0)
to straighten out the fake birth certificate in person.  

Alice left me in Wonderland.  

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I bet (0.00 / 0)

you're on to something!

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Straighten out (0.00 / 0)
I got a vision of Tony Soprano saying he would "straighten out" his birth certificate. Yikes.

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I disagree somewhat (0.00 / 0)
I don't want him to win anymore.  I'd rather have a right wing neocon crazy who I trust than an empty suit I fear.  JM is none of those by the way but I still think I'm leaning Green myself.

On the subject matter.  I do not think he ran the way he did because of anything he expected as you say.  I think this is Axelrove's plan that is many years in the making, tested with Deval Patrick and refined in Iowa.

Everything they do is planned with a known outcome.  Even his supposed misspeaks that allow him to whine to his core even more.  

He is an actor in an academy award winning role that the critics rave about and nobody goes to see.

Fighting for women at Partizane


I'm with you. (0.00 / 0)
If the polls here in NH are close come election day, I'll vote for JM.  If it's not close, I'll maybe go for the Green.  But there's no way I'll vote for someone whose party rigged it for him.

It's funny, the same people who preferred the Green to Gore in 2000 now are going for BHO.  They just never seem to get it right!  I was for Gore in 2000, and may go Green this time.


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i want him to run fairly (0.00 / 0)
I don't know if that would give him a win, but it would be a fair win, and I could live with that.  I don't like this all over the place stuff, not only can't he win, he'll just make everyone upset and worried.  What I'd like best would be for him to drop out, realizing he's blown it and can't run on his plan anymore.  

Hillary - alternative energy

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run fairly (0.00 / 0)

but he's already blown it as far as winning fairly; the Dem primary was rigged.  That's one of the two main reasons I can't vote for him.  Yes, let's hope he drops out!

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yes, in his campaign (0.00 / 0)
he's been manifestly unfair, but what's left?  If we're going to get anything out of this we need to find out if voters do want a compromise candidate, and if they never find out what he's about, how will we know why they vote against him, maybe we'll get some other compromise fool later on to lose it again for us.

I am so pissed that he had to grab the nom but he can't run a decent GE campaign.  Just when you think things are as bad as they can be ...?

Hillary - alternative energy


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we get one shot every four years. and obama will waste it. (0.00 / 0)
that's the real tragedy. i lived through eight years of reagan, four of bush one, and eight of bush two. i'm getting good at this.

Barack Obama's election proves that any male can grow up to be president, provided he's willing to use misogyny as a campaign strategy.

If (0.00 / 0)
McCain wins, in four years there's a very good chance we'll then have Hillary as POTUS.  Should be this year, but if not it's got to be four.

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which is the only bright spot (0.00 / 0)
but how many opportunities will be gone forever?  

Hillary - alternative energy

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that's what's so damn depressing (0.00 / 0)
I expect him to continue to run a terrible campaign and to keep losing momentum, but I would like him to know why. It's not that his idea was so bad, actually Hillary did what he said he'd do once elected, but he was running as a one -trick pony, totally untried, and he couldn't even keep it up during the primary and now that we're in this stage, whatever it is, he's ever worse.  

He will be such the laughing stock and he won't know how to respond, he's taken himself and his motivational speeches so seriously and he's so quick to condemn anyone who mentions his inconsistency.  He's totally puffed up and hsi staff puffs him more.

They think they can control the discourse by making him above reproach, and that is so stupid and totally misunderstands Americans. We hate to have know-it-alls, that's why Gore lost, truth to tell, and he actually knew a thing or two, he really was experienced and he had something to show.  You can't look down on people by setting yourself apart and expect an American to want you to succeed, that makes us want to see people fail.  We're a lot more like 4th century Greeks that has been reported.  
Oh, well, I'll shut up now ...

Hillary - alternative energy


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If Obama does get the nomination (0.00 / 0)
I hope he loses. Sorry. I just cannot support his campaign tactics.  

Alice left me in Wonderland.  

Glad to hear you say that. (0.00 / 0)
I am not the only one. And I know you care about LGBT issues too.

But yes - if we reward the tactics that got him the nomination, we will encourage the next candidate to repeat it. Things will just unravel.  


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with you (0.00 / 0)

I agree with you and grlpatriot.  The Dems have used very dirty, Rove type tactics; and we have to stop this now.  If BHO wins, they'll think those tactics work and will continue them.  No way can such bad behavior be rewarded with my vote.  No way.

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LGBT issues (0.00 / 0)
In addition to many issues, I do care about LGBT issues. I know that Obama will spend ZERO political capital to fight for LGBT issues and to repeal Don't Ask, Don't Tell. Zero! As a lesbian, I will fair just as well under McCain on this issue, so my conscious is clear.  

McCain does not support amending the Constitution to define marriage as btw one man and one woman, but Obama probably would if it meant it would win him votes. He would throw gays under the bus as quickly as he could say cheese in front of cameras.  

Alice left me in Wonderland.  


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he won't take any stands (0.00 / 0)
and he wants consensus, he wants to respect those who are homophobic too, but he does expect us to trust that he won't let it go too far.  Since he doesn't keep his promises, one won't know.  But, poor John, he's looking frail and in pain. Will he last the first year? I think that's one VP we'll need to pay attention to.  

Hillary - alternative energy

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Consensus (0.00 / 0)
can be a good thing, however, Obama wants to be liked so he panders. Big difference. I think both Obama's and McCain's VP choices are important in case something should happen.  

Alice left me in Wonderland.  

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i think consensus (0.00 / 0)
is just a cop out, but that's my opinion.  but I do know that many think it's a good thing, and just what we need. And maybe they''re right, I always said it wasn't his message that was bad, his message is fine enough, but that he'd never be able to implement it., and he'd need to prove it first, which he hasn't, he seems to have no talent for bringing people together, for unity.  

That is his Achilles heel, he does need to be liked by all, and he gets very pissy when he's not liked a whole lot.  So, he's vulnerable to unscrupulous people who appear to like him. that was the problem in the hippie days, we were for love and trust, and so creeps saw a possibility and they exploited it.  

Personally I think suspicious is the way to go.  Fool me once, shame on you?  


Hillary - alternative energy


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"Always aim high, work hard, and care deeply about what you believe in. When you stumble, keep faith. When you?re knocked down, get right back up. And NEVER listen to anyone who says you can't or shouldn't go on."
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