Hillary's Growing Shadow

this is the part that scares me... (0.00 / 0)

...we have NO IDEA what we would be voting for. it's more like signing a power of attorney than an election.

Do we know -- does Obama even know? -- what he really feels about drilling off our coasts, tapping the strategic petroleum reserve, NAFTA, faith-based initiatives, campaign financing, the FISA surveillance laws, town-hall debates with McCain, Iran, the surge, timetables for Iraq pullouts, gun control or capital punishment?

Barack Obama's election proves that any male can grow up to be president, provided he's willing to use misogyny as a campaign strategy.

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by: campskunk @ Thu Aug 07, 2008 at 21:24:31 PM CDT

You said it: (0.00 / 0)

it's more like signing a power of attorney than an election.

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by: ghost2 @ Thu Aug 07, 2008 at 22:55:24 PM CDT

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"Democrats will soon regret... (0.00 / 0)

not nominating Hillary Clinton" -- Trust me honey half of us are already there; we are just waiting for the other half to realize it.  

Alice left me in Wonderland.  

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by: grlpatriot @ Thu Aug 07, 2008 at 22:00:16 PM CDT

they're coming. give them three months. (0.00 / 0)

Barack Obama's election proves that any male can grow up to be president, provided he's willing to use misogyny as a campaign strategy.

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by: campskunk @ Fri Aug 08, 2008 at 21:04:36 PM CDT

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I predict a major case of (0.00 / 0)

Buyer's Remorse cometh November.

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by: Radiowalla @ Sat Aug 09, 2008 at 13:04:36 PM CDT

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The narrative the MSM is afraid of (0.00 / 0)

This post should read in conjunction with two other pieces:  One is Salon reporting on a Pew poll that finds that voters are getting kind of tired of hearing about Obama.

The piece is by Walter Shapiro.  Here's the link:

http://www.salon.com/opinion/f...

The second is the report by Rasmussen of the failure of Obama to poll a majority of women over 40.  There is no other more reliable Democratic demographic.  Democrats have been carrying this group for over 20 years.

Given the evidence that the Puma movement is a real phenomenon with a real impact, it is stunning to me that Obama and the MSM think that they can just ignore it.

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by: dbrown04 @ Thu Aug 07, 2008 at 22:25:44 PM CDT

Good read. Thanks. (0.00 / 0)

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by: ghost2 @ Thu Aug 07, 2008 at 23:00:48 PM CDT

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Well, Obama is fixing the "Obama fatigue thing, (0.00 / 0)

and apparently the "party friction" is just a media invention. At least that's what he says. He is fixing the fatigue thing by going on vacation in Hawaii. This guy needs a lot of vacations, doesn't he? Here is what the ticker says about it..

"There hasn't been controversy other than what you guys are projecting right now," he told reporters. Obama described conversations between the two campaigns over convention planning as "seamless." "It has not been a problem," he said.

Asked whether he would be content if Clinton's name were placed into nomination at the convention, he responded "I didn't say that. I said they are working it out, guys."

Obama also said he hopes his week off to visit family in Hawaii will help address public dissatisfaction reflected in a Pew poll this week that revealed nearly half those surveyed feels they have heard too much news about the presumptive Democratic nominee.

"We are going to correct that this week, hopefully with your help," said Obama.

So, he is going on vacation to give us a break from his Oneness. How kind of him!! And the party friction is just media-made, not real..except that there are 18 million+ people who disagree. I guess Obama figures if you ignore it, it will go away. That should work great in the White House..snicker. Oh, and did you catch his evasion on Hillary being put up for nomination? He still can't bring himself to admit that she is a viable candidate and should be in the nomination process. What a jerk!!

Live your life in such a way that when your feet
hit the floor in the morning, Satan shudders & says
'Oh $#!%'...she's awake!!

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by: FlaDemFem @ Fri Aug 08, 2008 at 09:16:07 AM CDT

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With your help? I didn't say that, guys? GUYS? (0.00 / 0)

"I didn't say that. I said they are working it out, guys."

"We are going to correct that this week, hopefully with your help," said Obama.

Sounding a little defensive ...  

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by: catfish @ Sat Aug 09, 2008 at 15:39:51 PM CDT

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We won in an important way (0.00 / 0)

Hillary may not ever be President of the United States.  But we her supporters have still won an important battle.  We've forced Obama and the Party to share the political stage with her.  Maybe even the VP.

Obama clearly thought that he could take our support for granted.  Hillary and Bill could be safely put out to pasture.  But thanks to us, that's not going to happen.

Here's Jonathan Alter on the subject:

http://www.newsweek.com/id/151...

For starters:

Okaaaay. And if you think what Clinton said to Kate Snow was a sufficient endorsement of your candidacy, you're Obambi after all, set up to be rolled repeatedly as president. More likely, both camps knew immediately after the Snow interview that they had repair work to do.

After the hubbub, the two sides worked out a hasty compromise whereby Hillary Clinton will speak Tuesday night and Bill Clinton Wednesday night. Two nights out of four featuring the Clintons is not what Obama had in mind for his convention, but he'll have to live with it.

And for enders:

The dustup over the Clintons will get resolved, but it's a harbinger of drama to come. Bill Clinton is still sore. And Barack Obama hasn't quite figured out yet that the men who have been president is a tiny club, and Clinton is the only one whose advice is likely to prove useful. (Jimmy Carter is a prickly pacifist, George H.W. Bush is so out of the action that he didn't even know Obama had been saying nice things about his presidency when I asked him about it last month, and President Bush has little reliable to tell him).

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As for Hillary, she would have much more leverage over Obama if he wins and needs her help to get his agenda through the Senate. Should John McCain be vanquished, the Clinton-Obama dance will keep us riveted for years to come.

Here's the middle:

Hillary will likely not sign the document that is necessary under party rules for her name to be placed in nomination. The Obama forces aren't dumb enough to permit it, and Hillary, unlike Bill, has to work with these people after the election if Obama wins. But the rules do allow for all delegates to vote for whomever they want. So Hillary's delegates will naturally vote for their candidate even if there are no nominating and seconding speeches for her.

This last quote is the one that I find most important.  Hillary is going to speak on Tuesday about the history of women's suffrage.  Then the next night, she's not on the ballot.  So her supporters, by shere force of will and refusal to be pushed around, put her in contention.

The symbolism is too sweet.  How could Obama, if he's so smart, let himself get trapped in that one?

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by: dbrown04 @ Fri Aug 08, 2008 at 09:40:07 AM CDT

This looks like a diary (0.00 / 0)

to me. Interesting stuff.  

Alice left me in Wonderland.  

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by: grlpatriot @ Fri Aug 08, 2008 at 12:15:07 PM CDT

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Morning Joe talked about Bill Clinton's interview (0.00 / 0)

they sort of said B.C. had to drop a loud hint that hey, we're being ignored here and that is not acceptable, you've got some work to do.  

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by: catfish @ Fri Aug 08, 2008 at 12:24:25 PM CDT

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