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The War Room II

by: anna shane

Tue Aug 12, 2008 at 01:07:47 AM EDT


After John Edwards got outed as a dangerous fraud, the email story came out, those secret insider emails that chronicled insider thinking in the Hillary war room.    Having conveniently forgotten that Bill's campaign was filmed for a documentary, I thought it would be some nasty gossip piece and cast Hillary's staff in some unpleasant light, for instance calling him some kind of monster.

So, like seeing a movie you expect not much from and finding it to be delightful, I enjoyed reading the Atlantic piece when it became available.  They had a point of view I disagree with - they saw her as running a dysfunctional campaign - I thought it proved everything I've believed about Hillary.

anna shane :: The War Room II
She didn't expect Barack to get so far so fast (who did, he was probably more surprised than she) but she never underestimated him or his appeal.  She wanted to win the nomination because she believed she was the best person for the job, but she also felt protective of Barack's candidacy. She didn't want racism to be at all an issue, and she didn't want to 'attack' him in any way that might hurt him in the GE.

She wasn't getting a fair shake in the press, and Barack did need some vetting, not just to be fair to his opponents, but also to inoculate him against 'new last minute' revelations that might take too much time to defuse.  And eventually the press complied, and in that way he is protected from any 'surprise revelations' factor, that can make something fairly tame into a losing 'issue.'  

She had two groups of staff, and as feminists we can call them - the boy's side and the girl's side, although there were boys on the girls side, and girls (probably) on the boy's side (who was on Penn's side?)  

Hillary was running against a sui generis opponent, and in that way he's absolutely new.  Barack is a 'realer' American in that he represents our diversity, and his candidacy is unique.   As it turned out, even those who didn't like Barack so much, didn't like seeing his 'hope' message diminished.  

She couldn't use sex, because that could lead to race and to making a comparison between two unique claims to under representation, and she thought his claim was likely stronger.  I now have no doubt that had Hillary not thought the job needed to be done expertly, she would have been on his team. He's just the sort of candidate that Hillary would want to promote, and as I recall, both Hillary and Bill campaigned for him when he was running for his senate seat.

The boy's side wanted her to run like a man, a man inside, a woman outside, the iron lady.  Turns out they were wrong, but who knew? The girl's side wanted her to be herself, they knew her, they liked her, and they wanted her to show her real personality.  Turns out they were right, but who knew?   Hillary didn't know. The boy's side meant she had to take Barack on toughness. The girl's side meant she had to show that she actually liked him.  

Hillary believes in experts, and she thinks there needs to be many points of view, but deciding how to run for the highest office in the world is hardly an exact science.   She didn't immediately make up her mind which side to choose.  She tried some things out, saw whether or not her point had been understood, and then made some adjustments.    

Then, she made a choice, and after that she started winning in bigger numbers.

Hillary became herself, warm and funny and sometimes just a tad bawdy.  She let her wonk out and talked policy like professor.  She let her humor out and joked about herself.  She let us see her work ethic by her tireless campaign and her good humor and essential joy in life.  

So, in the end Hillary learned, from experience, in a brand new situation - a woman running against an African American man with a compelling hope and change message, in 2008, after 9/11, after Iraq, after Guantanamo, and with a current dangerous incumbent.  She won the second half of the campaign, after she made her choice, by a half million votes (is that really right?)  I think she showed that a girl can be a girl.  

To me she won.  

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Me too. Also, if you read the emails... (0.00 / 0)
before Iowa, Penn advises if Obama win Iowa, she "release the tapes", which I assume means the Wright tapes, which means she was aware of them all along, which probably means the press and everyone and their brother who is insidery was too, but she didn't do that.  She didn't release the damaging tapes, not even during Obama's ten day winning streak, which is saying a whole lot because most politicians would have released them, dumped them like a domestic abuse allegation in a Senate primary.  Most would have.  But not Hill.

Medicare for All is Civil Rights

yes, that's what I thought of her all along (0.00 / 0)
it was an unfair contest in one big way, that shows to her credit. If it were Soloman's choice he would have given the baby to her. She didn't do "anything to win,"  and Barack did everything he could to win, including sullying her.  but, he's a guy, he was running Penn's choice.  

Hillary - alternative energy

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She makes me proud... (0.00 / 0)
to be a supporter - to be a witness to a first class person who happens to be a woman- running for the highest job in the land.  

As someone who loves history, more than once I've realized how very blessed and fortunate we have been as a nation. At critical times just the right person or group of persons were ready, willing and able to step up and make a crucial difference. Without those people our history would have been radically different. Think of our founding fathers, Lincoln, FDR and Truman's implementation of the Marshall Plan after WWII.

This is one of those crucial junctures in the life of our nation. The person who takes the oath of office in 2009 will either cement the crimes and mistakes of the previous 8 years or will yank us back from the edge of the precipice.

Right now we need a  Amazon, what it appears we will have is a choice-between the devil and the deep blue sea.


at least (0.00 / 0)
he's the deep blue sea.  he could be worse, I just hope he invites her on the ticket and gives me some hope too.  

Hillary - alternative energy

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Anna, thank you for this write-up (0.00 / 0)


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for writing this up- I refuse to lose another whole day in front of this computer- I have wild blackberyy jam to make!

I do not get his "hope and change" message- to me it is frightening- as I have never gotten a satisfactory answer as to what it is he is going to change. He will never be the candidate for me or my family or those I work with.We will not vote Obama, plain and simple- no matter who else is on the ticket. I hope and pray the Supers come to their senses and if not, I hope the hell Hillary stays OFF the ticket.

She does not need to be his lackey. Let him drown on his own. What an insult to hard working talented women everywhere if she gets the second place slot to an unqualified man when she so clearly deserves the top.  


I hope the same. (0.00 / 0)

I would rather she stay in the senate, where she has the freedom speak her own mind on critical issues, rather than doing state funerals for an Obama Administration (if he wins).  And she can be our president in 1212 (if McCain wins).  The best scenario is the delegates wake up and make her our nominee now.

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Is there a link? (0.00 / 0)
To the story that you all are talking about? Because I haven't heard about it, and have no idea where to look.

FYI: Protocols like linking to stories you are discussing are important, because not every reader is privy, or even an insider.  

I'm a Stantonian Democrat.


good point (0.00 / 0)
It was late last night when I wrote this up, and I forgot. Here is it:

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc...

Hillary - alternative energy


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Now, you know what I want to see? (0.00 / 0)
I want to see the Obama campaign's training manual for its bloggers.  Were they told to accuse people of being racists at every opportunity?  Where they told to routinely drop the b-bomb?  Inquiring minds want to know.

me too (0.00 / 0)
Watch sites like the Washington Post.  It's comments sections are insane.  Obama supporters accuse people of being racist if they support McCain, playing the victim if they support Hillary.

What I find fascinating is that the anti-Semitism inevitably comes from Obama's supporters and it is so disturbingly unapologetic.

Oh, have I mentioned I can't stand Obama?


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She won - period (0.00 / 0)
They threw so many obstacles her way - and she still got the popular vote. The media, DNC, the GOP and her trying to not damage B0 to much? And still beating him? She is so above the little gossipers!

i know (0.00 / 0)
she beat the pants off him, I know that, hope all girls know it too.  I used to smile at the tv when she was speaking, thinking, thank you Hillary, you show them, for all of us.  There are two sexes, not one, and girls have a 'head' and 'heart' advantage.  Oh, well.  Now the news it out, no excuses to sideline the 'little ladies,' just look to Hillary.  

Hillary - alternative energy

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re: both Hillary and Bill campaigned for him in his Senate run, (0.00 / 0)

and Hillary did fundraisers for Axelrod and his wife for their daughter;

and then BHO and Axelrove called both Clintons racists.  (what nice guys.)

and now Hillary is back campaigning for BHO again.


she's the real mother (0.00 / 0)
she'd rather lose the contest than hurt our chances in the GE, and they knew it, and they took shameful advantage.  I'd like her as VP, cause I know she'd be influential and have a more international field, where lots of the real trouble is. He's a lazy guy, wants the work done for him, she's a worker, she gets stuff done. We have no chance that he'd be on top of issues like competence, he's very slack about details and he sticks with his friends until they become liabilities. She'd fire close friends if they turned into hacks or were no longer producing long before they had time to be liabilities.  I want her competence there.  

Hillary - alternative energy

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influential VP? (0.00 / 0)

how they're treating her now is a strong clue how an Obama Administration would treat her as VP.  and it's not pretty.

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i fear you're right (0.00 / 0)
His campaign is frustrating, he does seem to understand or agree that treating her well is a component of winning.  If he can't do it from sincerity he might try doing it out of self-preservation.  

Hillary - alternative energy

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"Always aim high, work hard, and care deeply about what you believe in. When you stumble, keep faith. When you?re knocked down, get right back up. And NEVER listen to anyone who says you can't or shouldn't go on."
Hillary Clinton - June 7, 2008

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