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We're not finished folks - not by a long shot!

UPDATED: The Delegate Shuffle - Kentucky Edition

by: Alegre

Sat Aug 16, 2008 at 01:43:26 AM EDT


UPDATE: I think some of you are missing my point here guys.  Just because BHO's still trying to pull this garbage it doesn't mean this is an impossible fight or that we should lie down and give it up as a lost cause.  I posted this to MOTIVATE US to take action.

KEEP FIGHTING DAMMIT!

Hit the phones.
Fire out (respectful) emails to convince folks to back Hillary.
Write LTEs to your local papers.

Guys we've got less than two weeks to make history and this is an uphill fight but its still one we can win.  

Now let's get to work!
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Hats off to Ricki Lieberman for digging this up and sending it out - and for allowing me to cross-post this information here...

MORE ON DELEGATE INTIMIDATION: With the nomination of Senator Clinton settled, Delegate Intimidation has not taken a vacation.  Vigilance is required to turn back efforts to replace Clinton delegates with people supporting Obama, and other dirty tricks which distort and corrupt the delegate count.  Each delegate should reflect the vote of the Congressional District they represent, no matter what.  If this happens, Hillary and Obama will be separated by a handful of votes and then it is all up to the Super Delegates.

By way of example, Kentucky Clinton Delegates have taken action to protect their delegation.  Olivia Morris Fuchs writes: "Yesterday, some of us who are Hillary's Kentucky Delegates filed a DNCC Challenge with the Chair of the 2008 Convention Credentials Committee.  

Ryan Alessi of the Lexington Herald-Leader has done a noble job of explaining the actions we have taken in his post at http://polwatchers.typepad.com/  Clinton backers challenge changes to delegate roster:  Kentucky supporters of Hillary Rodham Clinton say the Kentucky Democratic Party has violated rules by substituting a backer of Barack Obama for a Clinton supporter in the delegation that will attend the national convention in Denver later this month.  About two dozen Clinton faithful in Kentucky signed an official challenge filed to the Democratic National Convention's credentials committee to revoke the delegate status for state Rep. Ruth Ann Palumbo, who backed Obama in the primary, and give her spot to a Clinton supporter."  

Please know that our Kentucky Hillary Chair, Jerry Lundergan, was an amazing resource and support.  He is to be applauded for all of his help, throughout the campaign right up to this minute."

The voting ended months ago - BHO's already declared mission accomplished and they're telling us it's over.  And yet in Kentucky they're still trying to steal votes.  

And they once accused Hillary of being a politician who would do anything and say anything to win an election.  Gimme a break!

Chicago smack-down at its lowest folks.
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UPDATED: The Delegate Shuffle - Kentucky Edition | 18 comments
They did it in VA, too (0.00 / 0)

When we had the delegate convention in VA, Obama's people substituted their own people for the Hillary delegates. IOW, supposed Hillary delegates are actually Obama supporters pretending to be Hillary delegates. They pulled this stunt all over the country in an effort to ensure no chance of a Hillary sneak win if there was a roll call vote at the convention.

THIS CONVENTION IS RIGGED!

It's all a sham, folks. It'll be an ersatz convention complete with a perfunctory, symbolic, meaningless roll call vote that's supposed to bring UNITY to the party.

Party Unity My Ass!

They've call all of us all sorts of names throughout the campaign and they're still at it! They're trying to cram the most inept, most unprepared, the most inexperienced man down our throats for president and they expect us to fall in line and vote for that perfidious weasel? Are the NUTS?

Brazile says there's a NEW Democratic Party and they don't need us. Dean says the GOP is the "white" party. Georgia is burning and Obama is on vacation. Remind you of anyone?

As Heston said while riding his horse on the beach, seeing a part of the Statue of Liberty on the shore, "You Blew it up! Damn you! Damn you all to hell!"

Dean, Pelosi, Brazile, and Obama blew up the chance for a Democrat to take back the White House.


Country before party.

Yeah, no shit (0.00 / 0)
They were talking about that here in CA in February.  Man, our numbers must be huge.  I'm in Palm Springs right now and our neighbor just drove out from LA and he said he heard on the radio that McCain and the other guy were tied and that the other guy was going to lose.

If the super delegates still vote him in then our fight has just begun.

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and georgia (0.00 / 0)
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NO THE WHOLE THING WAS RIGGED (0.00 / 0)
See my post listed under "recent diaries" about how Obama won more Delegates even though Hillary won the popular vote!! He cheated the system with help, of course.

this entire election stinks to high heaven

HE MUST NOT WIN

~~~~~~~~~~I Haven't had a President since 2001~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Dr.Lynette's Caucus Fraud siye is up and ready (0.00 / 0)
http://www.lynettelong.com/CAU...

This primary was disgustingly Not democratic. Apparently Dean made some kind of decision that it didn't matter how Dems win as long as they win.  Well winning isn't everything
when the democracy is destroyed and corrupted to get it back. I truly do not understand how so many party leaders went along with this behaviour.

 

i guess that's why they call it "audacity"... (0.00 / 0)
...there's other way to describe the cynicism required to take advantage of a rule requiring proportional representation of women in the delegation to blatantly substitute a delegate favoring the male candidate for a one the VOTERS selected to represent the woman candidate.

in other words, they don't care about women's rights. and they don't care about the will of the voters.

Barack Obama's election proves that any male can grow up to be president, provided he's willing to use misogyny as a campaign strategy.

it's bullying (0.00 / 0)
and it's stupid, it is not necessary. It wasn't necessary for him to smear her in the primary, and it's not smart to game your own party. We want the candidate who can best win, not the one that gamed our own system, how does that give us our strongest candidate against pugs?  A nice issue based primary probably would have given us Hillary, but that would have meant she's the strongest candidate, and the people's choice not the one Howard wants.  And if she weren't the strongest candidate, he would have won.  You only need party unity when it's been first fractured.  

The rank and file are smarter than the brass, it's time for a revolution. After the GE for me, but the first step has been taken, the votes will be recorded, if someone is a Hillary delegate and votes for him first round, we'll know and we won't forget.  I'm tired of our leaders substituting their own ambitions for our will.  

At least they could respect our intelligence and not try to grab every single extra small advantage, especially after there is a presumptive candidate. It's insulting our intelligence.  I'd like to vote for a dem candidate for a change without having to spin it to myself.  Ah, fat chance?  

Hillary - alternative energy

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the gallup poll says many other dems are asking themselves the same thing. (0.00 / 0)
it's not that mccain is gaining- it's that obama is dropping as people realize his agenda and the traditional democratic policy positions have nothing in common. separation of church and state, strong protection for privacy, womens' access to reproductive health care, social security, all have been bargained away.

the democratic VOTERS out there still care deeply about these issues, even though the leadership no longer does.


Barack Obama's election proves that any male can grow up to be president, provided he's willing to use misogyny as a campaign strategy.

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He's Been Dropping Since Feb. Folks (0.00 / 0)
He had a lot of wins in teh caucus states in Feb. but then the tide turned in Hillary's favor.

BHO LIMPED OVER THE FINISH LINE - tied with Hillary and on the losing end of the popular vote.  And yet somehow the bozos at the DNC have decided that he's our strongest candidate to face Mac. in the GE.

What a joke.

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I don't think that (0.00 / 0)
he has nothing on common with our agenda, I think he has a different agenda and he needs to be clearer about it.  He wants to show respect for those we disagree with and give them a little something, like something symbolic. the problem is that the party base has lost too much over the last thirty years, and so we want someone who'll tell us at least what his or her line in the sand is, what he or she would never 'negotiate' away. If the people want a consensus candidate, and if he gets the message across, and if he shows it, by running with HIllary and letting us all know which agencies will be reporting to her, do it together so that we can have her great competence and her great team, it's possible that he'd win.  But that's his 'issue' and he needs to be clear about it and he needs to demonstrate that he really means it, that it's not just words, and his only chance is to invite her onto the ticket.  It's supposedly his thang, and right now, what with the confusion on where he stands and who he really wants to make decisions, he has to show it's really his thang.  

Hillary - alternative energy
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He lacks substance. He believes in symbolism as the ends not (0.00 / 0)
the means.  There's no there there.

By the by, he's uninvited Wes Clark from the convention.  Oh yeah, this a great guy, much better than John Kerry:

http://www.thewashingtonnote.c...

Medicare for All is Civil Rights

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omg (0.00 / 0)
Yes, he overrates symbolism and then won't give symbolic creds to those who have the most backing of the people?  I keep wanting him to be better and he keeps letting me down.  She's never let me down. How could our party leaders have been so weak and selfish at this time, when there is so much to correct.  

Hillary - alternative energy
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What? Clark supports Obama now! (0.00 / 0)
My goodness!  How many Dems has Obama now thrown under the bus?  (And he still expects to get the nomination?)

Let me start counting . . .

1) Alcee Hastings (won't go to the convention; Obama doesn't care about Hastings or his district)

2) John Lewis (ran a candidate against Lewis in the primary; Lewis trounced the other guy)

3) Charlie Rangel (spiteful, that)

4) Wes Clark (earlier, and now -- he's thrown him twice under the bus!)

5) Max Cleeland

6) Hillary Clinton

7) Bill Clinton

8) Most if not all of the Congressional Black Women's Caucus and Most if not all of the Congressional Women, period (aside from Nancy Pelosi).

Disgusting, shoddy -- and I do believe it's a recipe for failure.

Superdelegates, there's still time to wise up.  This guy will screw you over for nothing.  So why do you think he'll ever represent even your interests?  (And if you believe he's been "bought" by you, how do you know he'll stay bought, as the saying goes?  Being bought, btw, does not have to happen with mere money.)  He certainly isn't representing mine, or anyone I know.

Stop the drama, DUMP OBAMA!!! Now!!!

There's no excuse for this, DNC.  None.

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