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We're not finished folks - not by a long shot!

Open Thread: Mad As Hell Edition

by: Alegre

Sat Aug 16, 2008 at 21:30:26 PM EDT


Another one of my favorite videos from the campaign season.

I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take it any more!

Here's a thought...

don't get mad
don't get even
kick their butt and race across the finish line first.

This is an open thread - what's on your mind?

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remember the PUMA PAC challenge. (0.00 / 0)
riverdaughter at the confluence has challenged us flying monkeys to a PUMA PAC fundraising contest. it's in my earlier diary, and we have about $200 so far.  here's what the money's going for...

We are finalizing our plans for Denver. Things are changing constantly on our schedule because what we can do depends on you! Our FINAL schedule will be released Monday morning. As long as you're in Denver, you'll be able to get to ANY of these events.

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Barack Obama's election proves that any male can grow up to be president, provided he's willing to use misogyny as a campaign strategy.


As I always did when Alegre asked... (0.00 / 0)
when I used to go to MyDD....I've done my $100 today!

Come on, everyone, jump in!  Every little bit helps!

RISE HILLARY RISE!


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Oh, I was another name over there.... (0.00 / 0)
Shazone!

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So, here's my rant for today. (0.00 / 0)
My spousal unit and I have been talking about "how in the world could people go for Obama?"  I mean, really.  This guy is so worthless it's hard to believe that anyone would want him as POTUS.

But then we realized - America has been dumbed down to the level of American Idol.  You are old, over the hill, stupid, worthless unless you can yell and scream and clap for your favorite hyped up "idol".

George W. Bush is responsible for a lot of this.  If someone who looked and acted and thought like Alfred E. Newman could not blow us up in 8 long long long years, then BO couldn't be "that" bad.

Oh.  What ever happened to experience?


I just went and did my part with a note (0.00 / 0)
To the barricades in Denver my friends

Fighting for women at Partizane

I hope this will be motivational (0.00 / 0)
August 16, 2008:
Hillary Clinton Delegate Michelle Thomas, who was instrumental in putting Hillary Clinton's name in nomination at the Democratic National Convention, and a panel of LaRouche Youth Movement activists Ian Overton and Alicia Gerretani, on "The Fight for Principles at the Democratic National Convention."

http://asx.ljcentral.net/mp3/e...
More downloading options (dialup, mac) or stream it here:
http://www.larouchepub.com/rad...

I just downloaded it (took less than 5 minutes at about double dialup speed)...

There will be a full roll call vote.
Michelle explains what she's doing and why. Including rules and history. Including fact that Howard Dean's name was in when he was a candidate ... and now he wants/wanted to deny HALF of all the Dem primary voters in this primary a voice in the convention.

This petition process started by Hillary's delegates themselves who read the rules and saw a petition could force Dean to do his job. Michelle volunteered to help them... Grassroots. No contact with Hillary's organization. Had to google to find delegates phone numbers... Got about 80% of them. Call them to inform them Howard Dean trying to subvert the process, prevent roll call vote from happening. Many delegates didn't know of this. Inform them of the petition...

This is first election Michelle has been politically active in. She explains how she got involved this time, ... starting back around January, she saw from unfair media coverage and other things that something was very wrong with this election... she'd never read blogs before... she found "hundreds and hundreds" of people who were undergoing the same experience as her...

(Well, that's 11 minutes into an hour show. I type far too slowly to be doing this. Links above. Enjoy. I'm going to listen to the remainder of the show without typing.)


and I hope this will be informative (0.00 / 0)
(Alegre, That thing I said about "making a fool of myself" in another thread has nothing to do with my making posts like this, in which I'm way out from conventional thinking/popular opinion. It had to do with how often posts bring tears to my eyes; I'm doing more than my share in supporting the tissue market these days. I'd feel foolish if people could see me. There I said it. It's done. Big deal.)

I couldn't help but type listening to the rest of the above show. Helps me to focus. After reading Hopscotch's comment below, I've decided to post it, because it tends to answer the questions (which I've put in bold to that end). Kind of a rough transcript. My additions in square brackets. Sorry for length, won't make it a habit.

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Michelle is a photographer in L.A. doing this thing out of her apartment.
"We can't risk 4 more years. People are hurting."  (34 minutes. Michelle off. Host talks with LPAC street organizers...)

Grand Lake theater marquee... (I missed it. Maybe someone in the Bay area knows...)  
Soros money destroyed campaign of Hillary, corrupted the Party.

SF, East Bay... Obama ex-supporters waking up. "Oh. That's what's going on..."
People smelling something... they smell the smoke, but don't know where the fire is.

Problem: cynicism, some think there's nothing can be done about it. Transforming from just being upset about the subversion of the process to doing something about it.  

1932... FDR... Lessons for Denver. Trying to keep a candidate who has a plan for the economy out of the process. This is something that happened before; not happening now just because Hillary is a woman.

1989 (phone connex bad) People need to understand how the nation's powerhouse development was stopped after WWII. Intentional destruction of our productive economy.

Obama put up as candidate to thug-out discussion of issues.

People need bigger picture-goal and method of organizing. Town-hall mtgs on day of convention opening:

In Bay Area. Town Hall Mtg Monday, Aug. 25 at women's Bldg., Mission District. 7:30 p.m. - 10:00 p.m. 510.599.1776

Next day - a march, being organized by the 18 million Voices from the Ferry Bldg to the UN Plaza. Rally at UN Plaza (town hall meeting in the street)

"What's going to happen in Denver?" No one knows at this point. In last 2-3 day's we've seen Dean-Obama forced to concede they couldn't just leave out more than half of the Dem primary voters from the process.

Important to realize that this is not happening in a vacuum. We almost had an outbreak of WWIII the other day. Most people don't realize that the govt of Georgia is almost a wholly-owned subsidiary of George Soros' "Open Society" (lots of material at their website, larouchepac.com, on this) .  Their financial system that keeps them alive (as she put it) is coming to an end. They are willing to do just about anything to try to keep it alive, including destroying any sort of FDR tradition in the United States.

If people are clear on that, if people are clear on the overall world situation, on how these operations are being run, and if we organize from that standpoint, then we'll win.

Michelle Thomas raised the point, "Where are the leaders?"  We saw in the situation in Russia and Georgia that Putin and M did not play by the rules that were set by the BE [those who created and therefore control Soros]. Similarly, President Bill Clinton and Senator Hillary Clinton did not accept the rules laid down by Soros' puppet Howard Dean.

In both cases, we have seen a change in the overall strategic geometry. Now the other active ingredient which has to be fully visible, between not just now and the opening of the convention, but beyond that, is we have to have a mass movement, a movement of leaders [not only national but like Michelle] of people from [e.g. heavily including] the lower 80% of family-income brackets, who bring us back to the traditions of Franklin Roosevelt. We need the policies [and principles] to be put forth and we need to see if there is a candidate who will rise to the occasion.

What happens in Denver will reflect this, but there is no way to predict how this will happen.

What we do know is that Michelle and her group will continue their mobilization, LPAC will continue their mobilization to destroy George Soros and everything he represents, including using Obama as a hand grenade to blow up the Democratic Party.

Watch their website and they'll be back with another show 3:00 EST next Sat. END


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Thanks you for these comments.  Don't apologize for the length; I would have been happy to see you do a Diary on it.

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appreciate your taking the time to say that. I have no time to write diaries; a few passionate comments per weekend are taking more time than I can really afford. They just end up being longer than I expect when I start.

I was banned from Riverdaughter's for comments like this... maybe 1/5 of my comments referred to lpac's work, but they'd "gotten complaints" or somesuch. (So if Allegre starts "getting complaints," she can blame Kim for telling me to look elsewhere to post "my politics." Heh.)

To be fair, Kim was nice enough to reply to my e-mail asking why my comments were disappearing into the digital ether. She kicks ass in Denver and gets Hillary nominated, I'll send her a dozen roses.

Really. Go to www.larouchepac.com and watch some of the videos.  Firewall, 1932, Soros, take your pick. If you can't find something well worth your time there, I'll send you a dozen roses.

Well, ...if I win a lottery.

Till then...

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I try to compare this election and convention to other ones in my (0.00 / 0)
lifetime and I am coming up with something way different.  I don't know, though, if that is because some things are really different, or if it is because I just didn't notice them, and wasn't tuned into blogs and so aware of every little thing that happens.  But, I don't recall any other presumptive nominee having this much control over things, and as blantantly snubbing associates and supporters of other candidates who competed against them, to the point of not letting democrats high up in the democratic party participate in the nomination.  True, Casey wouldn't endorse the platform and wasn't allowed to speak, and noone has ever rushed to have Dukakis or McGovern spreak prominently, but this is not the same.  Can anyone help me out with some clearer, honest memories, if I am just being naive? I know you will say how much worse Obama is, but is that accurate?

It is different. (0.00 / 0)
Respectfully, please see especially the bold in my above post.

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I *heart* that video. (0.00 / 0)
I missed the Obama/McCain faith powwow last night, hope to see some scathing posts about it here!

I think the difference in this primary are money, anger (0.00 / 0)
and louder voices from the radical left. With the internet it has been easier to swamp congress with emails; its been easier to donate money etc.

Since Bush came into office fraudulently, IMO, mocked democracy, the rule of law and melded the branches of government which caused so much anger, the Democrats decided they needed to play hardball this time around. What the dems did wrong was pander to the radical left and ignored the moderates to grow voters. If they hadn't committed so much fraud, used sexism, racism etc., and found a more experienced candidate than Obama I don't think the dems would be so fractured. They had the perfect candidate, Hillary, but succumbed to the right wing talking points which the far left used also against the Clintons.

Add the money factor, the power factor and the corporations influence which is more this cycle than any other primary I recall and we have chaos in the Dem party. Too much greed, power hungry angry people with poor leadership like Dean and Pelosi and the kids are louder and drowned out the voices of wisdom and reason like Hillary and older voters.

But that's all in cyberspace. I think the majority of Americans who do not blog don't have a clue of most of what we have learned about Obama and all the drama surrounding it. I also think Obama will lose because most of Americans are moderates and will vote accordingly and this time around we need centrists in the WH. I also don't think having DEMS majority in congress and senate and white house is a good thing so McCain as POTUS who is a centrist with Dems in majority of Congress and Senate may be the way to go for the next 4 years to get the country back on an even keel. If the country swings way left after having been way right the whole country will literally flip into a bigger mess. That's my observation.


Charlie Rangel and Wes Clark told (0.00 / 0)
No Thanks?  The realist in me once assumed that Obama was going to be my next president.  Didn't mean I couldn't have my beliefs and opinions about the situation and it didn't mean that I couldn't exercise whatever voting options I chose for myself in November.  The realist in me this morning though now is not so sure Obama is going to be my next president.  Obama made giant ego driven mistakes during the primaries, I thought it was just because it was the primaries and the stress and the fight.......didn't make it right but I could understand where the mindset may have evolved from.  Sadly though, Obama's ego is still driving the bus and it looks like a cliff up ahead on three sides and this dude takes nothing back apparently.  Sort of like our current president in the ego department.

Non-political..but.. (0.00 / 0)
I probably won't be on too much today, or for a few days. I lost my best mare to colic this morning, and have been up all night trying to save her. She is being buried in about an hour, so I am going to deal with that, and then I am going to fall apart for a while. She was a grand-daughter of the great Secretariat, and a great athlete in her own right. She did dressage and jumping, both beautifully. I have had her for ten years, and I will miss her so very much. She was my star, my beautiful girl, and the boss mare of the whole farm. Here is a picture of her in her stall in our old barn in PA.
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Live your life in such a way that when your feet
hit the floor in the morning, Satan shudders & says
'Oh $#!%'...she's awake!!


I'm so sorry for your loss (0.00 / 0)
Take some time to grieve.  Its so hard to lose an animal - they're members of our family.  We lost our beloved cat a couple months ago.

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Sorry to hear this, FlaDemFem. (0.00 / 0)
What a terrible thing to have happen.  You have my sympathy.

There's no excuse for this, DNC.  None.

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Richardson Statement (0.00 / 0)
Did anyone just hear Bill Richardson on Late Edition with Blitzer?   Blitzer asked if Richardson was comfortable with Hillary on the ballot in Denver.  He hem'd and haw'd for a second or two and then said (paraphase); "Yes, now I am, because Hillary will release her pledged delegates to Senator Obama.  A deal has been worked-out".

WTF?  I hate this.  Do we have to have a "Deal"?  Is this Democracy?   How about just having a straight-up delegate roll-call and whomever wins is President!   This is the only scenario I can accept.

I will be tempted to post this comment again if I see an appropriate thread.


"Always aim high, work hard, and care deeply about what you believe in. When you stumble, keep faith. When you?re knocked down, get right back up. And NEVER listen to anyone who says you can't or shouldn't go on."
Hillary Clinton - June 7, 2008

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