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We're not finished folks - not by a long shot!

"Get Over It Loser!"

by: Alegre

Tue Aug 26, 2008 at 10:49:33 AM EDT


I've gotta tell ya folks, that is not how you build bridges, win over Hillary's supporters and re-unite a party.  But that's the kind of thing Hillary's folks are hearing from BHO's crowd in Denver this week, and the only way that's going to stop is if The Chosen One takes the lead and tells them to knock it off.

Take a look at what Ricki Lieberman had in her EW blast-out last night

A HILLARY VOLUNTEER WRITES: "...from the Denver war zone - donning my Hillary t-shirt tonight, I walked from 17th and Larimer to Union Station tonight to catch the light rail to my hotel. About a 15 minute stroll.  I was acosted no less than 6 times by people shouting "Hillary lost."  "Get over it loser."  "Why ya wearing that shirt, moron?" Etc.  All of the unwelcome comments came from people wearing Obama gear.  

In conventions past, people proudly wore their "loser" gear.  When people saw my Clark t-shirts in Boston, it was "Hey!  Wes Clark!  GREAT guy!..."  It came to me, as I thought about crossing the street because a rowdy group of Obamaniacs were walking my way, that it is not Hillary's responsibility to unite this party.  It is the responsibility of the person at the top of the ticket.  And he and his supporters with their cult mentality just guaranteed tonight that this voter will NEVER be on that unity bus.

 (Emphasis added)

NOTE to Camp BHO:  If you want us on board then you're going to have to get your folks to line up behind you and start treating Hillary's 18 million voters with respect or we will never get past this and win in November.  

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ah, the obama outreach program. (0.00 / 0)
it's the narcissistic entitlement syndrome in action. that's what's going to lose this election for obama. they don't want support from democrats; they don't want support from independents. you gotta be PURE to support The Oneā„¢.

ok, kiddies, if that's the way you want it...

Barack Obama's election proves that any male can grow up to be president, provided he's willing to use misogyny as a campaign strategy.


"Get Over It Loser!" (0.00 / 0)
Someone needs to start a getoverit.com site where all of these types of comments are captured. So that on Nov. 5th, we can direct the Obots to the site and they can stare at it to see where Obama's defeat really came from -- their own foul mouths.  

Alice left me in Wonderland.  

Nov 5th? Not Enough Time (0.00 / 0)
to collect them all.  Seriously - we'd have to go back to this time last year in tracking down the baseless attacks that have been leveled against Hillary's supporters.

Why just yesterday someone called me a "white supremicist" on one of the other blogs (hi cheetos!).

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That's Gonna Be a Tough Go (0.00 / 0)
NOTE to Camp BHO:  If you want us on board then you're going to have to get your folks to line up behind you and start treating Hillary's 18 million voters with respect or we will never get past this and win in November.  

How are they going to treat Hillary with respect and at the same time blame her for the inevitable loss in November?

Ain't happening.


Heh, Good Point! (0.00 / 0)
They always look for someone else to blame and his (and Dean's) biggest failure will need a fall-gal come November.

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it IS his job and he hasn't done it. (0.00 / 0)
You are absolutely right. It's Obama's job to unite us, not Hillary's. He's squandered the golden opportunity to do so. His choice. He went with a VP candidate who got 25,000 votes instead of one who got 18 million. You'd think someone in that campaign would wake up and realize that they will LOSE if they don't court the other half of the party.  But in reality, perhaps they realize it is far too late... I just posted this quote from a news story on my blog:

"There is a lot Obama could have done to unify the party, and basically he hasn't lifted a finger," said one Democratic operative.  

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Is It Possible (0.00 / 0)
their hatred of the Clinton exceeds their desire to win the election?

There seems to be no other explanation for their behavior.


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In a Word... YES (0.00 / 0)
Everything the DNC and BHO have done so far tells me they're determined to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory AGAIN.

Dean should resign in disgrace.  And to think I backed hos sorry @ss when he went after the chairmanship in the first place.  He's overseen caused the massive split in our party and he seriously needs to go.

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Alegre, You're Not Alone (0.00 / 0)
I registered Democrat for the first time in 2004 in order to be eligible to caucus for Howard Dean.

But then I thought at the same time that Barack Obama was the greatest thing since sliced bread.

Neither man was who I thought he was.

Personal note:  This process has left me more depressed than I can say. With the prospect of Obama's nomination looming I see nothing short of the beginning of the end of democracy as we know it.


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You have to understand why they hate the Clintons.. (0.00 / 0)
it is because the Clintons were the original outsiders who came in and changed things, mostly for the better. Anyone who remembers the Reagan-Bush years knows this. The Clintons were NOT DNC insiders when they got to Washington, and pretty much saved the Democratic Party from going down the tubes with two election wins and massive fundraising for the down ticket candidates. Bill Clinton was the original "man from Hope", remember? They rolled into Washington to gasps of horror from all the insiders. And then they rolled up their sleeves and went to work. And they did very well, balanced budget, surplus, and several programs that help people. This is what is so bad about the Clintons, they are capable and effective office-holders. Not what the DNC is looking for at all.

The Democratic Party doesn't want real change, they want someone like Obama who will sing the change song but still play the game like everyone else. Not someone like Bill and Hillary Clinton who would actually expect them to get to work and DO SOMETHING. With Obama, they can sing the Hopey-Change song, pat themselves on the back for electing the first black President, and go back to business as usual with Obama explaining how it isn't as usual but is really change and hope. The fact that the Democratic Party is basically sanctioning Daley Machine methods is very telling. It's very old-school politics, goes back to Tammany Hall in NYC at the turn of the last century.

The reason they don't want the Clintons around is that they are too honest, yes, I said too honest, to allow these sort of methods to be used on their behalf. Obama has no problem with it, and never has. He has used the same methods in all his elections, which is how he wins. He doesn't serve well after winning, which is another difference between him and the Clintons. So, the reason the DNC etc, hate the Clintons is because they aren't as good at their jobs as the Clintons are and they can't stand that. They would rather profit off our backs and help the corporations do the same than let in a politician who can fix the problems we have now. With Obama, they have their own version of Bush.
They deserve him, we don't.  

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Right On! (0.00 / 0)
Great post - I agree totally!

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alegre sent an email (0.00 / 0)
just sent you an email

It is difficult for them to show us respect (0.00 / 0)
when he does not show respect for Hillary or us.

This is what she's up against - from yesterday's Washington Post:

If there is a political job more fraught with peril than running to become the next commander in chief, surely it is being cast as cheerleader in chief.

Hillary Clinton will be damned if she looks too methodically perfect, too much the purveyor of practiced routine and not enough the cheery personification of enthusiasm. She'll also be damned if she's too exuberant, too obviously raising her voice in unbridled exhortation for the team. She will either be deemed too cool or all-too-cagily warm.

Clinton can't win tonight. But then, she knows that....
In her 2003 memoir, "Living History," this is how Clinton described her reaction to her earliest political loss, during her senior year in high school: "I ran for student government president against several boys and lost, which did not surprise me but still hurt, especially because one of my opponents told me I was 'really stupid if I thought a girl could be elected president.' As soon as the election was over, the winner asked me to head the Organizations Committee, which as far as I could tell was expected to do most of the work. I agreed."

...But it is usually the job of the party nominee to build unity once a vanquished rival has conceded and made the right gestures. Unless the loser happens to be a woman. Then it's just like high school, and she must do the work.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/...

(h/t Tennessee Guerilla Women)


"Unless [she] Happens to Be a Woman" (0.00 / 0)
How prophetic.

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anglachel has a new post up. (0.00 / 0)
she explains it well.. hate is all they have.

The problem is that the Democratic leadership have nothing to promote except Obama himself. They don't have policies that distinguish them from the Republicans (Sorry, we tried "I'm not Bush!" with Kerry. Didn't work out so well.), there is not a measure or cause Obama can claim as his own (AUMF is off the table with Biden as the VP), and the people most harmed by current conditions have been told that they are not wanted in Whole Foods Nation, that they are racist panhandlers at the door (Keep building that unity!).

Look at an example: Carolyn Kennedy doesn't particularly care if housing starts are down. Her portfolio is immune from such considerations. The people who make a living by working construction jobs do care. They're out of work, and can't pay their rent or buy groceries.

Barack Obama's election proves that any male can grow up to be president, provided he's willing to use misogyny as a campaign strategy.


Once upon a time... (0.00 / 0)
I would have been flabbergasted that one Democrat would treat another Democrat like this. After months of being insulted and called names, not so much.

What I can't honestly understand is why anyone would think that this is a winning strategy? Taking your attitude from the Hillary-Hating Media is as damnably dumb a tactic as I have ever seen.

Go ahead dolts, alienate more voters.

NØbama
NØvember  


Reasons to vote for McCain (0.00 / 0)

If you don't want to vote for Obama because of all the name calling, the sexism, the misogyny, the bullying, intimidation, and vote fraud, fine. Those things are bad enough but the really important thing is that Obama is a bad choice for the nomination. He'd be bad for the country and bad for the party. Since I put country before party, I'm voting for John McCain and he'd be the first Republican vote I'll cast in 40 years of voting.

Your choices:

Stay home = vote for Obama
Write in Hillary = vote for Obama
Vote 3rd party = vote for Obama
Vote for McCain = a vote against Obama and a vote for McCain

The tactics used by the misbegotten DNC and by Obama and his Chicago smackdown campaign with donations to ACORN for voter intimidation and fraud cannot be rewarded and they cannot be allowed to succeed. Their effort has to fail or we will never get our party or our country back in our lifetime. Those are the stakes.

Hillary is going to make a big speech tonight about unity. She'll urge all of her supporters to get behind Obama. No, we won't.

Country before party.


I'm a DEMOCRAT (0.00 / 0)
NOBODYs driving me into enemy territory.  I'm fighting to reclaim my party and no one will convince me that supporting the party that has ACTIVELY ATTACKED EVERYTHING I BELIEVE IN is the way to get the job done.

The Dems may have gotten complacent where my support goes but at least they're not actively opposing everything I stand for and believe in.

Please - don't tell me the way to support Hillary and reclaim our party is to support the very people that attacked and hounded her and her family for 8 or 10 years at our expense.  Bill was arguably one of our nation's greatest presidents.  Imagine what he could have accomplished if he hadn't been hounded by the rethugs 24/7!

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I'm with you, Alegre. (0.00 / 0)
I won't be guilted into supporting McCain, though I will never support Obama.  My vote is my own.  My conscience is my own.

I will never support Obama.  And I will never support McCain.

That is not traitorous to either myself or Hillary, and it does not amount to a vote for Obama -- it's merely not twice as bad, just one time as bad.

There's no excuse for this, DNC.  None.


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A Narcissist (0.00 / 0)
can't unite other people---It's all about HIM.  Obama can't look past his own ego which WE are supposed to be stroking.

Well Said! (0.00 / 0)


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What in the Hell is the matter with them? (0.00 / 0)
They're such huge losers, there isn't a representation of the letter "L" that will fit on their respective foreheads.

Idiots!

There's no excuse for this, DNC.  None.


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